• @[email protected]
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    The ending was so dumb, too:

    Yeah we just found out our whole life here was a lie but we’re gonna stay here anyway.

    And then everyone who wanted to leave basically gets peer pressured into staying because, “we wouldn’t survive without you.”

    I don’t see why they couldn’t let people leave and then find people to replace them. Or you know, at least go home to see their families. Or why Alixus had to gaslight everyone in the first place. I can’t imagine that she wouldn’t have been able to find any volunteers for her experiment. The Federation is full of bored people who are tired of their comfortable lives and hungry for “authentic” experiences.

    I also didn’t believe that she could have been ridiculed and ostracized for her ideas. The reaction I’d expect from any reasonable person would be something like, “okay whatever, knock yourself out.” I think in reality, she probably just came across as too unhinged to anyone she pitched the idea to, and then she was such a fucking narcissist that she assumed everyone was out to get her.

    • @ummthatguyOP
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      221 month ago

      Thank you for pointing it all out! The indoctrination of 10 years worth of cult behavior may be hard to shake, but what the fuck? Just “Yeah, that’s not right, but we’re good” makes no sense. Then the last thing we see before fade to black:

      They get no say in the matter, knowing suddenly there’s other ways to live.

    • Flying SquidM
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      It doesn’t help that it’s sort of retconned with Discovery’s idea of post-WWIII Luddite colonies. She could have just moved to one of those. I’m guessing they didn’t all disappear in a century.

    • @ummthatguyOP
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      141 month ago

      Ah, programmer humor. While I don’t understand your wizards language, I like to think I get the gist.

        • @ummthatguyOP
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          51 month ago

          I figured by context, but appreciate the explanation. Not a programmer, but still a desk jockey.

        • @ummthatguyOP
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          81 month ago

          That being said, I’ve been building my own rigs for about 15 years, but Windows is all I know.

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                I’ve been using Linux full time, for school, then work and personal since 1999. My wife uses it now too. It’s worth the leaning curve. 100% of my meme’ing is Linux created

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                  21 month ago

                  Thanks for the more pragmatic push to transition OS’s. The number and enthusiasm behind the responses only lends to the accuracy and spate of pro/anti Linux memery. I’ll have to take it into serious consideration.

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            51 month ago

            Dude, linux. Come to the future. You’ll love it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Since the reply (as of writing) has more upvotes than the joke itself, I thought I’d give a thorough over-explanation of the joke, because that always makes jokes better (/s):

      The basis of the joke is a UNIX-style command line, or shell, showing the invocation of a single command. It could be Bash on Linux, or zsh on MacOS, or any other shell with a compatible syntax. This is not strictly a joke for programmers, but likely for anyone with experience in IT. Using the shell is oftentimes necessary to configure or modify the operating system, or in this case, to interact with software that does not have a graphical user interface (GUI) component. Some people consider using the shell more convenient than the GUI even if there is one. Personally, I’m not a snob and I’ll use whatever is handy to get the job done.

      The command shows the invocation of gzip, a file compression utility like WinRAR or WinZip or 7Zip but free and open source, that is installed by default on most Linux distributions and MacOS. gzip is also the name of the compressed file format that this utility outputs, which is similar to .zip or .rar but differs in some key details.

      -9 is a flag to the gzip command that tells it to target maximum compression of the input file. gzip implements the DEFLATE compression algorithm, which is actually a combination of two other algorithms: LZ77, which searches the input for duplicate runs of bytes and replaces them with references that point back to earlier occurrences, and Huffman coding, which replaces sequences of bytes with “symbols”, the length of which is inversely proportional to its frequency (more frequent symbols are given shorter encodings and less frequent symbols are given longer encodings, which saves space on average). The compression setting only affects the LZ77 portion, as it controls how long the algorithm will search for duplicate substrings. ZIP files also use the DEFLATE algorithm, but the file format is different so they are not strictly compatible.

      KaiWinn is the input file to be compressed. As a convention on UNIX-based systems like Linux and MacOS, files without any extension (e.g. .gz, .zip, .txt, etc.) are usually executable files (i.e. programs, the equivalent to .exes on Windows), though sometimes they are text files (but this is usually obvious from context, like a file named README). This could be a folder instead, but unlike WinRAR or WinZip or 7Zip, gzip does not support compressing multiple files (like a whole folder structure) into a single archive. Compressing a folder would require either a different utility, or more typically for UNIX-based systems, filtering through the tar (Tape ARchive) utility to encode the contents of the folder into a single file before compressing. The tar utility comes with support for compressing with gzip built-in, so compressing KaiWinn as a folder would look something like tar -czf KaiWinn Alixus.tar.gz.

      > is a redirection operator which writes the output of the command to a file (Alixus.gz in this case). By default, a lot of command line utilities on UNIX-based systems (e.g. Linux and MacOS) write their output to stdout, which normally outputs to the console but may be piped into other commands. A lot of utilities have command-line options to write their output to a file (like the -f flag for tar shown above), but gzip does not.

      In fact, gzip’s behavior is potentially quite surprising, because it does not normally write its output to stdout. By default, it actually replaces the input file with a compressed version of it with the .gz extension appended, and redirecting the output does nothing. This means it won’t actually behave as intended for the joke. We can see this by running the following commands ($ is a prompt for a command, # denotes a comment which will not be interpreted by the shell):

      $ # make a directory to work in
      $ mkdir s2e15
      $ # enter that directory
      $ cd s2e15/
      $ # create an empty file
      $ touch KaiWinn
      $ # list directory with details (file permissions, number of hard links, user/group ownership, size, creation timestamp)
      $ ls -l
      total 0
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 22 00:11 KaiWinn
      $ # Compress our file
      $ gzip -9 KaiWinn > Alixus.gz
      $ # List the directory again
      $ ls -l
      total 4
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  0 Apr 22 00:20 Alixus.gz
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28 Apr 22 00:11 KaiWinn.gz
      

      Notice how KaiWinn is gone and we now have two new files, Alixus.gz and KaiWinn.gz. Pay special attention to the sizes: 0 bytes for the former, 28 bytes for the latter. The gzip format has a header which always contains some data, including the original filename, so a properly formatted gzip file will never be zero-sized even if its input was. So why is Alixus.gz zero-sized? Because it’s not actually a valid gzip file. The gzip utility doesn’t output anything to stdout by default, so we ended up just writing an empty file alongside our compressed one.

      To tell gzip to output to stdout so we can redirect it to a file of our choosing (and coincidentally leave its input file alone), we can pass the -c flag:

      $ gzip -9 -c KaiWinn > Alixus.gz
      $ ls -l
      total 4
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28 Apr 22 00:31 Alixus.gz
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  0 Apr 22 00:31 KaiWinn
      

      And now we have our Alixus.gz.

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        But, also, actual thanks. That level of technical dedication will be the basis of what I can only hope to become our own Federation.

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    81 month ago

    Biggest problem I had with the episode is how they basically generalized the idea of ideological fundamental environmentalists. It was basically all those stereotypes many people have about extremist environmentalists who basically start acting like a fundamental cult.

    Although I agree that any kind of fundamentalism is not a good thing … generalizing the environmental movement like this didn’t give a good message about the movement as a whole.

    • Flying SquidM
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      Could have been worse. Could have been Enterprise’s “The War on Terror is justifiable” season.

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    Yes, Benjamin, let the core emotions flow through you!

    Edit: her hot af “son” was one of the first signs I kinda sorta maybe thought I maybe might be gay back in the day, lol. Thanks trek for the funny feels!

    • @ummthatguyOP
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      If only it were so simple. Just another person unwilling to roll with the changing tide. Not that there wasn’t any merit to some of what she said. Not forgetting our longstanding evolutionary traits has its value, but the outright rejection of humanity’s ability to think beyond our limitations is a bit silly.