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It’s high time America retaliates in the cyber realm. Disable municipal systems one at a time until the blyats get the message.
America has retaliated… sort of. Not by direct cyber attack, but with sanctions, which have made business impossible for companies like HP and Microsoft.
If your organization gets attacked you may be able to recover from backups. If your organization’s primary service provider dumps you, now you have to completely rebuild everything.
To put it another way, Russia abused computer infrastructure to attack countries that it’s not at war with… so America just took away the infrastructure.
That’s cool n shit but I want to see America assert as much overt and covert pressure as possible, short of a shooting war. It’s time to show the blyats our collective, Western might.
Good strategy comes from focusing on achieving your objectives, not showing force for its own sake. Showing your full capabilities should only happen after you’re certain your opponent has expended theirs.
That sounds like some Art of War tactics
Uh, municipal systems? Seems the US should target the national government making these decisions.
Putin can’t possibly think he’ll win if the West as a whole goes to war with him, right? If he does, he’s crazy enough to think he can win a nuclear war.
It’s all covert stuff for a reason. He knows that Western countries won’t respond with nukes against covert actions, especially if those covert actions are indirectly meant to prop up the pro-Putin parties in those countries.
Don’t worry, he’s ‘only’ betting that useful idiots in the West will restrain Western governments from reacting in any way, shape, or form.
That’s why, although I’m in no way a fan of Macron, I love that he has put the idea out of at the very least starting to put boots on the ground.
At the end of that war, we can not permit it to be in the form of Ukraine losing even an inch of landmass. Because then in 5-10 years, Putin will just do the same thing again, maybe not in Ukraine, but elsewhere.
The only way to stop Putins madness is by making every thing he does cost him dearly.
France putting “boots on the ground” would mean a direct conflict between nuclear powers and would likely drag in the entirety of NATO.
Unless you want to live Fallout, such an escalation would be absolutely insane.
The threat needs to be there and real, otherwise Putin and Russia will never stop.
THAT is the insanity.
We’ve tried the economic approach, we’ve tried talking, we’ve tried not doing more than sending weapons to Ukraine.
It clearly doesn’t work and Putin will just keep repeating what he has been doing until there’s actual repercussions to what he’s doing.
Not necessarily. NATO only gets involved if one of the members are fighting a defensive war, which this would not be, and the member in question specifically requests help.
Most of NATO didn’t go to Iraq for example.
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Yes, but that is irrelevant. France involving themselves opens them up to retaliation from Russia. If Russia retaliated against France, and even if not strictly required to by Article 5, it is likely other NATO countries would join the conflict.
Yeah, but Russia won’t retaliate, because it knows that. Russia committing genocide opened them up to retaliatory actions like this. I’m under no illusion that France is only there to protect its geopolitical ambitions against those of Russia, but Russia gave them a justification, escalated the conflict in a way.
Let’s hope Russia won’t escalate further.
We don’t need any external help, we can sabotage ourselves on our own!
This will only result in more aid for Ukraine.
Please.
