Hello
I am happy on this instance and 2 other federated instances that take good care of the culture by not federating with some other instances.
Yet sometimes I wonder what the “firehose of trash” would be like if I would see really everything and am wondering if there is a “catch all” Instance that is not limiting anything at all?
I would like to take a peek down the abyss for once.
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I don’t have an answer to your actual question other than self-hosting. But, I doubt you’d ever get a “firehose of trash” on your main feed. Mainly because the trashy instances aren’t that populous, so I doubt their posts would be active or hot enough to float to the top. But I could be wrong.
You could always go directly to the instance you want to read and lurk. Unless you make an account you won’t be able to comment, but you’ll be able to get your firehose of trash
Edit: Just be mindful of how much you consume, you’d be surprised how easily hate can invade your mind. To this day I still have to self-censor every now and then thanks to the hateful rhetoric I grew up around, even though I’m long past it
Exactly! Hate is unhealthy.
Purity is also unhealthy.
I’m sorry but that made no sense to me whatsoever. Are you referring to the creation of an echo chamber? If so you could not be more incorrect. As far as I am concerned, there is no valid argument for painting racism, hatred, and bigotry in positive brush strokes. None whatsoever.
It’s worth noting that defederation-zero is not a practical requirement. There are some instances that just create loads of accounts and spam communities and reply to comments in communities that you are subscribed to. Of course for most instances they don’t support this and moderator prodding can solve this. But some instances are simply hostile and exist only to spam.
I do agree that I would like my instance to be defederation-minimal. Unless the other instance is being actively harmful or refusing to moderate at all (for example not retaliating for users who are breaking community rules) I would prefer to be able to see their messages and communities. For example I don’t personally agree with blocking Instagram Threads by default. Unless they show complete inability to moderate I would prefer to have the option to subscribe available. Especially because it allows an easy pathway for people to move from Threads to other fediverse instances (although maybe less relevant for Lemmy as it is more discussion oriented rather than personal profile oriented).
I would also like to be able to see per-user instance blocking. This would be a good tool for quick fixes to poorly maintained instances or instances who’s values I don’t agree with without affecting others. It could also serve as a useful signal to the mods. If dozens of people have blocked another instance maybe it is actually quite harmful and should be defederated.
I’m on an instance that defederated from only 3 other ones: voyager.lemmy.ml, ds9.lemmy.ml and enterprise.lemmy.ml - just checked now. I honestly dont see a firehose of trash, tankie invasion or anythig of the sort. I do aggressively block communities I have zero interest in, so it might still be happening there, but I personay don’t see it at all - anecdotal evidence, I know, but that’s been my experience.
Were they filled with spam? Or does your instance just really hate Star Trek lol
No idea, honestly - not a trekkie, so I never cared enough to ask :)
Ya fuck star trek
Fmhy only defederated Exploding heads and Lemmygrad, everything else is cool. And before they blocked exploding heads, it was completely ruining my feed.
burggit.moe and exploding-heads.com
burggit seems like a cesspool breeding ground
Perhaps that’s what you get without defederation :)
But I say that with my eternal emphasis that each user should be empowered to shape their own experience here, as much as practical, even if that includes an experience that some of us might view as cesspoolish.
Yes, I also understand that it’s something that’s unavoidable with fediverse. That response was made in shock when I visited the site, hopefully there will be ways to block whole site on per-user basis, rather than leaving it to admins.
It’s not enough to be federated with an instance in order for the content to pour in. Someone on your instance also needs to be subscribed to the individual communities.
I have a bot account that regularly polls the top posts on the five largest instances. If it notices any post from communities that it is not already subscribed to it does so, pulling all the content from that point forward. Even after doing to this for weeks I’m still only pulling about 800 communities and the signal to noise ratio is still good.
Could you link the bot repo? I was thinking of self-hosting but wasn’t sure because I didn’t want to only see subscribed content.
Thanks!
Feel like sharing the bot code? I’ve been thinking of setting up something similar
Cheers!
Vlemmy was a good one, although you are almost two weeks late with your question since it fell down :( (Although it was going to defederate with an instance the day before closing due to not wanting to host illegal content, for obvious reason)
I would love for another one to sprung out, I myself am quite trigger happy with blocking people and communities (even instances through my app) so I would always be happier being the one shaping the content instead of another person doing it for me, regardless of if we would block the same instances at least I would know what I have blocked.
I would probably never browse the local feed on an instance that intentionally never defederates though, the potential to jost a plethora of unsavory people is too high (although that hadn’t really happened with vlemmy, that instance was insanely good at that)
Still bitter about Vlemmy, and I haven’t made a replacement account yet.
Wait, what happened to VLemmy?
No one really knows, there are some plausible theories of negligence but in reality it is most probable the owner just decided to pull off the plug dince not only the server went down but the donation links did too.
He didn’t tell anyone and no one has been in contact with him
Like 3 days after the server went down there was a post on an investigation on what happened which made some discoveried and said they had some leads however there hasn’t been a follow-up to my knowledge
That’s wild. Do you have a link to the post?
I considered signing up to VLemmy due to their open federation policies, but I guess I’m glad I didn’t, haha
VLemmy AWOL Investigation hope the link works, if not just search for the title on search bar and it will appear.
I dont really regret having one of my first serious accounts on lemmy, at least I was part of the ride and the most annoying thing has been resubbing to small communities (now I have an extension to store my communities just in case)
Thanks!
