Someone asked about feeding their dog, a feculative carnivore, a vegan diet. The response was overwhelmingly, “Don’t, it’s animal abuse”. In fact, that was my exact response. I posted links to several articles explaining that it’s very difficult to feed a feculative carnivore, like a dog, a balanced diet feeding them only vegan.
They didn’t like the word, “force” as in, “forcing a dog to eat vegan.” When I asked how not giving the dog a choice was not forcing their false moreal supperiority on an animal without other options I didn’t get an answer. I also suggested giving the dog a choice between meat and kibble or even a feculative carnivore kibble versus a vegan kibble so they weren’t forcing the dog to eat vegan. That wasn’t popular either.
So…I’m banned from c/vegan. My life will be richer for it.
EDIT: Some of this conversation happened with individuals after the mods hermetically sealed the echo bunker by removing all non-fawningly supportive replies and banning everyone who didn’t fawn positively.
Could have been worse, could have been cats. (Obligate carnivore).
Although, I will say, I’ve had weird cats. I had one who begged for baked beans (pretty sure it was the bacon fat) and I have one now who craves pistachios. Not sure what that’s all about. He doesn’t just lick the salt off, he eats pistachios.
Cats are weird. I have one that goes mad for raw chicken but won’t eat cooked chicken and one that is exactly the opposite. They will both eat a bit of melon but mostly want their cat kibbles or meat.
I have two sisters from the same litter. One is a chow hound and begs for anything a human is eating whether she actually wants it or not. Her sister will only eat cat food, period. She’s not picky about the cat food, but it has to be cat food. She will not eat chicken, salmon, beef, pork, no dairy products, nothing. I once got her to eat a tiny piece of tuna but she wasn’t crazy about it.
They have tastes just like we do. One of my cats is crazy for scrambled eggs but doesn’t like fried eggs. The other isn’t interested in cooked eggs at all but will eat raw eggs. One is absolutely mad for cured ham (which I give him very little of because it’s got a lot of salt in it) and the other couldn’t care less. They definitely have their own tastes and personalities.
OMG, I had a cat that would fight you for cantelope.
Our cats nibble on the plants and occasionally take vegetables that we’re eating. Beling an oblate carnivore doesn’t mean that you can’t eat vegetables, it just means that they’re a very small part of your diet. Who among us hasn’t seen our cat run outside and immediately chow down on grass? What are you? A cow?
Haha my dog is super picky. I’ve had dogs my entire life and never seen it before. She refuses vegetables and even bread products (not that weird I guess) but she won’t even eat any chew toys. She will guard those raw beef bones but won’t actually eat them! She will eat any human food that isn’t vegitarian/vegan though
My cat eats popcorn if I let her. Unsalted popcorn (don’t judge me). Ok I guess we’re both weird.
Fuck that loser mod, they probably got banned from Reddit. Anyone feeding a dog vegan has deep mental issues and is abusing the animal.
The clitoris has more than 8 thousand nerve endings and it’s still not as sensitive as a moderator of a vegan sub.
Militant vegans, why are they always so angry?
I’ve said several times that all extremists are the same. It doesn’t matter what kind of extremist they are they believe that they are somehow superior (racially, ethnically, religiously, economically, morally, etc.) and that that moral superiority justifies anything they do to anyone they see as inferior to force their moral superiority on them or to harm them. They self-absolve which is EXTREMELY dangerous.
…or they’re malnourished?
Probably
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That’s a very good take on the situation. The extremists are a small part of the vegan community but they poison people’s perceptions of vegans with their actions.
It reminds me of the meme that goes something like this:
First person: My religion says I should’t do that.
Second person: Cool.
First person: My religion sayd that YOU shouldn’t do that.
Second person: Fuck you.
I don’t care what other people eat (unless it’s delicious and they want to share.)
I tried posting there in some of their threads yesterday and holy shit, worst echo chamber I’ve seen since r/conservative
These people drive away their potential allies more fiercely than their enemies, and then wonder why so few people are interested in being vegan.
They’re not trying to make allies and they aren’t trying to convince anyone. They’re stoking their own misguided sense of absolute moral superiority.
I think you’re right. I have a friend who is vegan and you would never know because he doesn’t talk about it, or judge what other people do. It’s just his personal choice. I’m all about reducing environmental impact so I consider vegans and vegetarians as allies in that regard. But these militants are something else.
Yup. I once spent an hour dragging a large group of people around Las Vegas looking for a place that could accommodate the one vegan in the group. I have zero hate for vegans. I hate extremists of all stripes.
And then this happened…
It’s an obvious troll sub…
And you want out and made a whole community to tell people it’s a troll sub?
Like, this is the best reaction you could be giving them. I don’t know why people don’t look at modlogs tho.
Just block them and go about your life, not draw more attention so more naive people go over there and feed them.
c/vegancirclejerk is a troll sub just as r/vegancirclejerk was a troll sub but they would still ban you if you questioned the orthodoxy. c/vegan is just a bunch of hypersensitive vegans looking for an echo bunker to confirm their beliefs and make them feel better about animal abuse.
c/vegan is a spot for vegans to talk about their veganism.
Non-vegans barging in to debate and “refute” veganism aren’t welcome, all vegans have enough of those in their daily lives.Non-vegans barging in to debate and “refute” veganism aren’t welcome
Someone asked a question about feeding their dog a vegan diet. It appeared in all and I clicked in and responded. Many people did. I wasn’t trying to “refute” veganism. I didn’t say anything about veganism. I commented that it was animal abuse to feed a facultative carnivores a vegan diet, to force your moral choices on an animal. That’s it.
I spoke truth into the echo bunker.
