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    The silly stock prices are bets on AI going up forever. But bubbles pop — and the shine has been coming off AI. We estimated that the present AI hype would have two years of desperate venture capital funding — but AI industry peons we spoke to earlier this year gave the VC money only until about the end of 2024.

    god that’s not even a particularly long bubble, though I feel like the short expected duration of this one goes hand in hand with how much non-tech people hate AI now — it took a few years of well-thought-out criticism for crypto to go from almost universally hyped to the shit you warn your grandma to not waste money on

    while I am rooting for it to happen, it feels like the tech industry’s earned a particularly hard crash this time, and it’s the nature of the fucked up beast that it’ll impact tech workers like you and me more than it’ll ever affect Huang or Altman or anyone else responsible for it. hopefully we can all brace appropriately for a thoroughly miserable time.

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      These bubbles seem to be inflating and popping with shorter and shorter cycle times, as if the VC-fueled bullshit economy is bumbling toward some kind of ending. It reminds me of a supermassive star burning it’s way down the periodic table until its heart is chock full of iron.

      I’m probably just seeing patterns in the noise, but it’s a nice thought innit? no you’re right, it’ll probably blast the innocent bystanders, mostly.

      https://lco.global/spacebook/stars/high-mass-star/

      High mass stars go through a similar process to low mass stars in the beginning, except that it all happens much faster. They have a hydrogen fusion core, but much of the hydrogen fusion happens via the CNO cycle. After the hydrogen is exhausted, like low mass stars, a helium core with a hydrogen shell forms, then a carbon core, with helium and hydrogen shells. Then unlike low mass stars, they have enough mass that gravity contracts the core raising the temperature and carbon can fuse into neon, then neon into oxygen, then oxygen into silicon, then iron. Each stage of burning lasts a shorter time than the previous one. For example, in a 25 solar mass star, hydrogen burning would take about 7 × 106 years, helium burning 7 × 105 years, carbon burning 600 years, neon burning 1 year, oxygen burning 6 months and silicon burning one day. Once silicon has fused into iron, no more fusion occurs, as the fusion of iron requires more energy than it releases. The core therefore collapses and releases a huge amount of energy in an explosion called a supernova. In the centre of the debris from the explosion is an incredibly dense neutron star. If the star is massive enough, the neutron star will collapse further and form a black hole.

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      oh sure, it’s an excellent company as a long-term hold. This is still a bubble and I think the numbers will go down when it pops.

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          I think this “AI” (a marketing term) bubble will flop per the article we linked in the post: this is a bubble fueled entirely by investors, mostly VC, throwing money into a fire of unprofitable businesses selling services at a loss that don’t actually work.

          I spoke to a pile of AI industry peons who think the VCs will get sick of setting money on fire by the end of this year. I woulda given it two years myself - there are hundreds of billions of dollars desperate for a home - but the number I was consistently hearing in March was “three quarters”.

          Maybe the Nvidia price will weather it. It took a hit when crypto crashed, though not a huge one.

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            The next AI winter can’t come too soon. They’re spinning up coal-fired power plants to supply the energy required to build these LLMs.

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            • David GerardOPM
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              For Christ sake how many meaning do you think VC has?

              we’re talking about a frequently used initialism on this community, which you may want to read more of, or not. Did you find this post by keyword searching?

              Bragging how you didn’t read something is also ill-favoured here.

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                96 months ago

                shit, thanks to the orange site and tech hypercapitalism in general, VC in the investing sense is an incredibly commonly-used term everywhere in the industry. so between them pretending your site won’t load and flip-flopping between being a tech investing expert and someone who apparently doesn’t know fuck about shit… well, you know what I’m thinking

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                  96 months ago

                  so just to confirm: you’re a tech investing expert who posts on Lemmy but doesn’t know about archive links or extremely common tech investing acronyms? is that correct?

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      The problem with betting on or against it is that you have to two factors to place your bet. What and when. You’re right about the what, but can you time the top? I’m not betting on that either.