Safety? Overdone? Looks stupid?
What are some moves that you feel need to be used less (or not at all)?
German/Belly to Belly suplexes
Neck injuries and so much can go wrong once the wrestler is released. I remember reading someone saying they won’t take Germans anymore and if you look back through history neck injuries started becoming more prevalent along with German suplexes. Same logic for Belly to Belly.
Spinning backhand/elbows
Looking at you Jericho and Kingston These look horrible and always will. Jericho has a plethora of moves and Kingston using any old school japanese finisher would work with his character.
The dive over the ropes and onto 10 guys that fall apart like bowling pins. It’s unbelievable but it’s not horrible, just way overdone IMHO.
Thankfully Eddie seems to be using the northern lights bomb as more of a proper finisher lately.
I don’t think it’s much of a hot take to say tope suicidas tick pretty much all of your boxes, op - they’re often unsafe, yawn-inducingly overdone, and a lot of wrestlers do them badly which looks real stupid.
More like Nope Suicida amirite
I like Dabry’s Tope and that’s it…only because of the way throws himself into it. I also feel like Darby is going to be eating through a straw by the time he’s 40…
I’m getting very bored of Canadian destroyers and their varients, especially Adam Cole’s really stupid version of it which makes literally zero sense.
I’m a big proponent of protecting moves, especially finishers, and think that you shouldn’t bury someone else’s finish by using it early in a different match on the card for a 2 count.
If Adam Cole could do it without his feet touching the ground in a smooth motion it would be godly…but he’s it looks dumb as is. I’m also going to say the BOOM is kinda meh because he has those tiny baby knees.
I totally get what your saying, I loved when Osprey tried to use the OWW and Kenny IMMEDIATELY got up off the one count and was just like no fuck that and fuck you. Not a burial but yes finishers should be protected unless part of the story.
Haha, I meant to say shouldn’t.
Ospreay / Omega is an example of when it was done well. Ospreay was doing it to mock Omega, as it isn’t a move he has ever done before so he didn’t “do it right” and so Omega didn’t “take much damage”. That’s fine.
What annoys me most is when someone takes a finisher and uses it as a transitional move, especially one that looks like it should be a killer.
This is where I think Ospreay has improved a ton, he used to be the king of flippy shit - which is great as a spectacle - but is now much better at the psychology of his matches.
I agree and maybe I’m just old, but it’s crazy to see it become a transition move everyone and their mother uses, when almost 20 years ago it was the most innovative finisher out there.
I know this is far from the only case of a finisher becoming a regularly used move, but at least with something like the DDT, the execution looks pretty simple.
Super kicks. Especially the usos. Their super kick is so half assed and looks like they are trying to be gentle. At least the bucks makes them look good.
I specifically avoided saying Super Kicks because I knew it was going to be one of the first responses. Yeah, some people need to be brought to the side and told it’s not a super kick, it’s barely even a thrust kick…so please stop. Still want to see a bucks Usos match with a Mexican standoff 4 way superkick one day though.
Punches should be illegal. Mainly because of how badly they break kayfabe. An intentional punch to the face, delivered by an athlete would be a knockout in real life.
Every and any move that requires landing on your knees. Tombstones, Hangman’s deadeye, that shit is going to make you into a semi-mobile cripple faster than you can say “That doesn’t work for me, Brother.”
I still remember Taker’s interview with Rogan where he detailed how they had to split one of his muscles to replace a shoulder muscle he tore so badly, repeatedly, and gradually it was literally just gone, due to his finisher requiring he carry the entirety of the opponent’s weight on his shoulders and then give it a jarring shock, landing with the sum of his and theirs on his kneecaps. Between that and his leg drop on the apron I can’t imagine any good reason to do this to yourself for decades.
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Just for the sake of kayfabe I think the Oversrive has to be retired. It’s just so stupid looking, especially when done poorly.
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I’m mostly just squeamish but I always cover my eyes when they do the jump, balance on the rope, and jump off or the go through the middle rope move mostly because I get so worried for them.
I know they train for it but my anxious ass can’t help it!
Edit: Don’t even get me started with Komander. I love him but that boy is gonna give me several panic attacks! :3
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