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DENVER (AP) — A police recruit who had to have both of his legs amputated after losing consciousness and repeatedly collapsing during fight training at Denver’s police academy is suing those who allegedly forced him to continue the “barbaric hazing ritual” after paramedics ignored warning signs.
Victor Moses, 29, alleges in a lawsuit filed Tuesday that aggressive officers knocked him down multiple times in the second round of “fight day” last year, with one of them shoving him off the mat and causing him to hit his head on the floor. He said he was pressured to continue, with officers picking him up and setting him back on his feet, before paramedics standing by were asked to check him out, the lawsuit said.
Moses told them he had the sickle cell trait, which puts him at an increased risk of medical complications from high-intensity exercise. He also said he had very low blood pressure and complained that his legs were cramping, according to the lawsuit. The symptoms are danger signs for people with his condition.
Nevertheless, paramedics cleared Moses to return to training, which the suit alleges was a decision made to support the police.
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Minor injuries are common and occasionally recruits die
Just ordinary “new job” stuff then. Like any other employer.
The legal action alleges the practice is an unnecessarily violent rite of passage that recruits have to endure to be accepted into the police “fraternity.” It notes that other recruits suffered injuries before Moses started his drills, including one person whose nose was broken.
The lawsuit also claims that training teaches recruits that excessive force is “officially tolerated, and indeed culturally expected.”
Moses’ lawyers, John Holland and Darold Killmer, say that mindset has nurtured a violent police force and led to lawsuits costing Denver millions of dollars.
“Fight Day both encourages Denver police to engage in brutality and to be indifferent to the injuries they inflict,” Holland said.
A culture of violence, bullying, and not caring when they hurt or kill people? Surely not. What an utterly absurd accusation to level against the police.
Sure sounds a lot like a gang initiation too.
That’s because it is.
Biggest gang in America.
Minor injuries are common and occasionally recruits die
Even worse, this quote comes from an assistant professor of criminology and criminal justice at the University of South Carolina. Also, the start of the quote states:
The type of training described in the lawsuit is common in the United States and helps prepare recruits for scenarios they could face on patrol [emphasis added]
Maybe I’m being misreading, but I read this as the professor is condoning this type of training. This type of training seems to support the whole “Warrior Ethos” and I know when I left the Canadian Army almost a decade ago, they were trying to eliminate this type of training as higher ups recognized how toxic it is.
B-B-But “Defund the Police” = Bad!!!
– weird #maga
For a group that wants to distance itself from gangs, it sure doesn’t help their case when they jump in new recruits.
When have they wanted to distance themselves from gangs?
I mean, every piece of copaganda is like: “look, see? We’re just your friendly, neighborhood guys! We like playing basketball with black kids! Isn’t that cool??”
I don’t know that they specifically had a campaign that said: “we’re not a gang”, but that’s kind of the subtext of all of the PR they do.
If this is what they do to their own, imagine what they want to do to you.
The lawsuit claims paramedics cleared Moses to continue the training on Jan. 6, 2023 even though he was not able to stand or walk to the next round — wrestling. Instead, a trainer came to Moses and got on top of him. The recruit soon said he could not breathe, became unresponsive and was taken to the hospital, according to the lawsuit.
I have to assume this wasn’t actually attempted murder because they did take him to the hospital after he became unresponsive… but I can’t imagine any other reason to “wrestle” someone who can’t stand. Haven’t we seen over and over that this leads to suffocation and death?
I can’t imagine any other reason to “wrestle” someone who can’t stand.
Congratulations! You’re officially too smart to be a cop.
they did take him to the hospital after he became unresponsive
Well sure … he was a recruit, not a perp.
I thought “barbaric hazing ritual” might be a little clickbaity, but then I read the story. No, it’s completely accurate. Damn.
Minor injuries are common and occasionally recruits die, often because of an underlying medical condition.
What. The. Fuck.
Moses told them he had the sickle cell trait
How was he even cleared for police training in the first place? This is a serious medical condition.
This sounds like an entire chain of lethal fuckery going on
I knew people in the military who had sickle cell. It was a really long time ago, but I can’t remember anyone being processed out because of it
Of course he’s black.
The man has Sickle Cell Anemia, if those medics were aware of that and didn’t pull him out the first time he complained of cramping, they’re just as shitty as the abusive aggressors.
No one should EVER be hazed like this, but I would absolutely sue any person who was aware of this practice if I were him. I cannot imagine the pain he felt or his loss he’s currently feeling. Fucking egregious. Throw those cops and medics under the courthouse.
Yeah, the overwhelming majority of people with sickle cell disease are black.
What a coincidence.
Not a single cop I have encountered could fucking endure what was listed here
This is what you get for joining a gang.
This is my first reaction, but it isn’t the right one, and it won’t fix anything. I’m not saying that all cops are not bastards. They fucking are. Does that mean a new recruit doesn’t deserve a second chance? That we should write him off entirely and not give him an oppurtunity to repent? Off with his fucking legs I guess.
I know someone (that I do not care for) that joined the force to ‘be one of the good ones!’ He is in IT now. I’m doing my best to believe he meant well, realized how in over his head he was, and got the fuck out. It isn’t easy, but we won’t solve this with ‘told you so’
‘be one of the good ones!’
There is no such thing.
I never said there was
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As some point the USA needs to have a talk about police and their steroid usage.
Because it is a huge drug problem that the DEA refuses to act on for obvious reasons.
Everyone from their co up to the commissioner should be replaced, hazing only happens when the people in charge ignore it.
Person wants to join the bastards, is shocked to be abused by bastards.
The lawsuit also claims that training teaches recruits that excessive force is “officially tolerated, and indeed culturally expected.”
Moses’ lawyers, John Holland and Darold Killmer, say that mindset has nurtured a violent police force and led to lawsuits costing Denver millions of dollars.
“Fight Day both encourages Denver police to engage in brutality and to be indifferent to the injuries they inflict,” Holland said.
Something something leopards and faces.
Seriously fucked, though.
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