Just take the L for trying to shoehorn nationalism and xenophobia into the thread.

Yeah why would someone go and change the subject? This is a sweet picture of a cat in a community about cats therefore we’re trying to insult this guy’s nationality and talk about genocide.

Yes, you saying Erdo has moved Turkey 200 years ago and thus saying that his Turkey is worse than anything in that timespan is a pretty clear case.

It’s pretty usual for Turkey. It’s never been a real democracy before Özal, and all the time till Erdo technically military still could depose the government. What Erdo changed is that apparently now this can’t happen. He made it technically more democratic if anything.

I mean, OK, if we compare this to Russia which only had one kinda democratic president (who was also president of RSFSR, so basically no single fully normal power transfer in modern Russian history), then yeah, they had a few normal presidents and Erdo broke that chain.

But then why is it 200 years, the Ottoman empire had Tanzimat, you know. Eh, until the good sultan died and the maniac took his place, abolished all those laws and started killings.

Wow. That’s the first time anyone has managed to explain whataboutism in a way that makes sense.

For years it’s been all “fallacious logic” this and “counter-argument” that. “Reductio”, “partial tu quoque”, “changing the subject”, and a myriad of other things that say lots while describing little.

Thank You.