I thought we were moving to the Lemmy instance here: https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense ([email protected]) but the /r/Noncredibledefense mods are linking to this Lemmy instance.
The instance of NCD on sh.itjust.works has more subscribers, newer posts, and more activity.
There can only be one so is it here or there. Does anybody know which it is?
Hi [email protected] mod here. I’ve tried to reach out to the reddit team on Lemmy but have had no response. I’m happy to make them mods (pending community approval) if they want a jumpstart. One of the cool things about Lemmy is there can be multiple versions of the same community for fallbacks if the main community is banned or the instance shuts down.
Anyways welcome reddit people! 🫡
A few reddit mods are also mods here on world. That’s why. I’m going to stay subscribed to both.
You’ll probably just end up posting it twice.
Yeah, that’s just a sign of someone not understanding how lemmy works.
The mods can decide to move, but that’s all that changes. They essentially just have another version on the second instance, with the first one now being “owned” by the administration of the first instance.
“Moving” a community isn’t as simple as just saying to move. If the community of the C/ says “nah, fuck that”, there’s nothing anyone but the owner of the instance can do to make them move. There’s already been cases where mods decide to abandon their first attempt on a given instance, move to another, and all that happens is that there’s a new mod or mods that take over. For good or ill, mods don’t own shit on lemmy. Unless it’s a trademarked name, which is its own thing, but good luck trademarking most C/ names. Even then, you’d still have to enforce that trademark, which is neither cheap or easy.
On lemmy, “There can be only one” IS NOT TRUE. There can be, and often will be multiple communities. This is a good thing, not a flaw. It isn’t even unique to lemmy. I can register southsamurai@ gmail, yahoomail (if I was an idiot), hotmail, aol.com, whatever. This user name? It exists on reddit, and on a dozen other sites unrelated to reddit.
C/s are the same. There can only be one NCD on lemmy.world, but there would still be one on reddit, and could be on sopuli.xyz, on circlejerk.org, or whatever.
That’s the entire point of federation and decentralization. It’s, ultimately, very democratic because we have choices. We can join the same C/ on fifteen different instances, and do so freely. Hell, on most instances, if the mods try to ban users from other instances or that use other versions, they can get removed because that’s against policy in a lot of instances (though not always directly stated).
So, wherever you started out (I don’t remember your home instance, and it might not be the same as the C/ you’re coming from anyway) is ncd X. The one on sh itjust works is ncd Y, and lemmy world is ncd Z. They all exist, and whoever wants to use them, can. So, just subscribe to all of them, and enjoy :)
When I say there can only be one I don’t mean it literally. Obviously there can be more than one. That’s the point of my post: there is more than 1 NCD Lemmy. But with social networks there’s a network effect. That tends to consolidate most users in one space. People don’t want the hassle of bouncing back and forth between 3 different NCDs. I just made 2 posts on bothe Lemmys and on reddit and it was tedious. I’d rather just settle on one, but I want to know which one. If this one and only one that is officially endorsed by the reddit NCD mods team then that will likely result in this one being the main refuge.
I have a mastodon account and a threads account, but I don’t use them. I use twitter still because most of the people I follow are there and I really don’t want to flip between 3 apps. I’m on the wait-list of bluesky and post, but I probably won’t use those much until a critical mass of people switch to one one of them.
I’d bet on this one, since it’s being advertised on r/NCD. It feels like the threadiverse is at kind of a lull at the moment, but once there’s another big wave of discontent and migration, NCDers are likely to end up here first.
The one on shjuwo will probably remain viable though, but will likely end up with a different character due to differences in style and quality of moderation. Like if a meme format gets banned here, people that still like that format will post it on the other community instead. People over there that are sick of that meme format are more likely to switch over here to get away from it. Repeat this a few times and the two communities will be differentiating themselves a lot more.
This one will likely be the one that takes off, if the mods are actively promoting it. This is the “official” one.
Why don’t you subscribe to both and then see what happens?
I am subscribed to both. I’m posting to both plus reddit which is just annoying
I agree though. Hopefully this is just growing pains and will sort itself out in time.
Just pick one then?
