The Uncommitted movement made modest demands on the Democratic Party toward ending the agony in Gaza, and the party rejected them. But their demands cannot be ignored by Democratic power brokers forever.
  • @just_another_person
    12•2 months ago

    No, it didn’t.

    These giant productions are meant to reach the broad majority of the electorate.

    It is not meant to affect government or global policy that affects the rest of the world.

    Unpopular as this take may be, the “uncommitted” movement is a very small segment of the population they care about, and also that any American cares about.

    Yes, it’s fucked up, yes you may find that objectionable, but no, this segment does not decide the election as they’ve calculated.

    • @Keeponstalin
      1•2 months ago

      The Uncommitted Movement is hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters. Over 200 delegates fully support the movement and those were the people pushing for a Palestinian-American voice to be heard. Giving the time for a single short speech would have given Harris massive support and momentum from hundreds of thousands of voters in each swing state. They already had a spot for a family member of an Israeli hostage to speak at the event, rightfully so because it’s important to hear from the victims, both Israeli and Palestinian. That speaker was also advocating for a Palestinian voice to be heard. The DNCs refusal to allow any Palestinian voice to be heard shows they don’t value Palestinians and Israelis equally.

      Harris/Biden saying they support a ceasefire means nothing when we are the ones sending the bombs that are killing tens of thousands of Palestinian children and have vowed to continue to do so

      • @just_another_person
        4•2 months ago

        Sure. Hundreds of thousands strong…in disparate voting areas.

        Say what you want, but there is absolutely no way they can impact a US election in numbers alone. If you feel badly about that, you might want to also get that group together and vote for election reform where small groups like this consolidate their votes and actually impact an election. They do not right now, and the people running these campaigns just don’t fucking care.

        • @Keeponstalin
          -2•2 months ago

          You can discredit the movement all you want, despite how large it’s grown in such a short time. Political analyst disagree, to overlook the movement it to jeopardize the campaign. I’m with the movement on moral grounds, so I’ll defend it regardless of how popular it is. But it is gaining more and more popularity and has already influenced many local representatives in more than just battleground states.

          So far, the uncommitted movement has tallied roughly 500,000 votes across the United States. It is an impressive milestone for a campaign launched just four months ago — and in a part of the country that is too often overlooked. But for Democrats, paying attention to the uncommitted movement is not just good politics in an election year. Seven months of sustained protest against Israel’s onslaught — and U.S. complicity in it — have pushed activists to look beyond the current crisis and challenge a system that values power over human life. That a growing slate of candidates is heeding their call points to a potential sea change in the Democratic Party. It may also make the movement for Palestinian freedom a quintessentially American one.

          • @just_another_person
            2•2 months ago

            It’s not that I don’t believe the movement exists. It does.

            I’m saying it is insignificant to the people you are here complaining about in its specificity.

            Yes they want your vote. After threatening that party over the past many months from the same movement, will they talk to you? Nope.

            Can they win without you. YUP!

            • @Keeponstalin
              -1•2 months ago

              I will always advocate to demand more from our representatives. Especially when it comes to ending military support for a genocide. Yeah, the Democratic party can take that risk, but it’s a bad move. It’s a bad move on moral grounds, it’s a bad move on political grounds. Especially if they want to win, that’s not a constituency to ignore and risk losing those votes in key states.

    • @return2ozmaOP
      -7•2 months ago

      The uncommitted literally won delegates that had a right to be there. Get out of here with that it’s just a small minority, didn’t have room for them bullshit. They had Oprah lol she’s not even a Democrat. She’s registered independent.

      • @just_another_person
        3•2 months ago

        I could win a few if I tried. You’re talking about a small percentage of people in a larger pool.

        • @Ensign_CrabEnglish
          1•2 months ago

          Well, a small percentage of people under a bus.

  • @Suavevillain
    -7•2 months ago

    It is very telling to watch Liberals say one min. Harris is the most reasonable and be pushed left on issues. Then trash protesters in the same breath. This the same thing they did with Biden and went to sleep for 4 years until his mental decline was non-debatable. People are in good faith wanting genocide to end. I stand by them.

      • @Suavevillain
        -3•2 months ago

        Yeah i noticed it is a weird parasocial relationship with people in power who don’t care about them at all. Plus Harris said she is willing to earn support. I don’t see any negatives in protesting, it doesn’t make the GOP suddenly look better.