Recently I was asked if we’d be willing to reconsider federation with Hexbear, followed by CARCOSA reaching out to me to see if it was something we’d be open to.
They made a post asking if their community was interested in refederating with us, similarly I’d like the opinion of our local users.
Why refederate?
Hexbear has a decent number of sizable active communities:
- https://hexbear.net/c/games
- https://hexbear.net/c/technology
- https://hexbear.net/c/movies
- https://hexbear.net/c/food
- https://hexbear.net/c/vegan
These all seem fairly well moderated, giving us access to more diverse posts and viewpoints. A lot of our feed right now is dominated by US centric communities, and it’d be nice to get some more variety.
Why not?
They love trolling and I don’t expect them to follow our rules when commenting (primarily “be civil”).
Just looking at their thread about us, there’s a significant number of immature replies slandering us / Canada. I’m not confident their users will engage in actual discussion in our threads, rather than just showing up to throw out insults and memes.
We can try to handle this by banning users / blocking specific communities, but that’s going to increase moderation workload for both admins and mods. Hexbear is self admittedly quick to ban users on their side, but they also don’t mind ban evasion - not ideal for us.
So what’s next?
This is where we solicit your opinions, how does our community feel?
Edit: Well, it looks like the community is overwhelmingly against refederation. Decision made, thanks everyone for your feedback!
I think it’s reasonable to say the community is overwhelmingly againts refederation, so we’ll keep the status quo for now.
Rough counts of comments and votes from local users:
- no - 23
- maybe if/and/or/but - 3
- yes - 2
Thanks for asking us and then following through by actually listening.
This thread is the complete opposite of the “Soliciting Feedback for Improvements to the Media Bias Fact Checker Bot” thread lol.
Thank you for taking this to the community and listening.
its literally a troll instance. most instances defederated from them for a reason
Pass. I don’t really think they match the vibe of the rest of lemmy.ca and many other instances.
I was glad to see an end to HB trolls.
Thanks for bringing this to the community instead of immediately making a decision yourselves. It is nice to have the opportunity to be a part of the choice, since it’s open as a possibility.
That said, no thank you. Lemmy instance blocking still cannot block both posts and users, which means that even though we can avoid their posts as we wish, we will still be inundated by Hexbear replies on every post. Considering that the comments are quite possibly the worst part of Hexbear, this will result in the same shit-show we had last time. The comments on their refederation post just reassure me that we don’t want to be associated with them. I won’t shed a tear to be missing out on the 5 extra meme posts on my all page.
Thanks for bringing this to the community instead of immediately making a decision yourselves. It is nice to have the opportunity to be a part of the choice, since it’s open as a possibility.
The community is what makes this happen. IMHO any major decision that impacts all of you, should involve all of you.
Best admin on lemmy. Thanks for all you do, this instance is by far the best!
And nice username, Amos is the boss.
I say no. Literally every interaction with HB has been negative. Its like they’re all AIs made to be as annoying as possible
No. The downsides of refederating far outweigh the benefits: They have a history of acting in bad faith, and the listed active communities have equivalent counterparts on other instances.
Please don’t federate with Hexbear.
Seems more trouble than it’s worth.
One vote for not refederating. Please leave hexbear where they are.
No
They love trolling
Until we get a decent automod, I’m not interested in fighting off even more trolls.
Need an automod that will insta-ban with no recourse anyone posting pig balls.
Gross
No.
They provide nothing of value.
Absolutely not. I will be switching instances if this happens. I have had nothing but bad experiences with Hexbear users and I do not wish to ever have to interact with such toxicity again. In case anyone has forgotten, their only reason to federate with other instances is to “dunk on liberals” and brigade to push a specific agenda. They specifically said as much back when they planned to federate with .world. There is zero intent for participating in good faith from most of their userbase.
Yeah I left my last instance and signed up here specifically because of Hexbear. Fuck that.
