No more arms for Israel. Then watch them return to the table.
pretty sure the latest blow to the ceasefire and thus the latest to walk away from the table as you put it, was Hamas adding yet more terms, but okay.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/07/biden-ceasefire-gaza/
President Joe Biden’s months-long push for a cease-fire and hostage release deal between Israel and Hamas has been upended again in recent days, putting the deal on life support as U.S. officials say they are reassessing next steps after they initially hoped to present the two sides with a “take it or leave it” proposal in the coming days.
The latest obstacle — the abrupt introduction by Hamas of a new demand surrounding which prisoners Israel would release — underscores the frustrating, often excruciating process that has preoccupied top U.S. officials, and Biden himself, for nine months. At several recent points the United States, along with Qatar and Egypt, believed a deal was within reach, only for Israel or Hamas to derail the talks with new demands that set negotiators back weeks or months.
Obligatory fuck the IDF and Bibi and Hamas. Reminder that hostages and killing said hostages are also warcrimes, disgusting acts on both sides. No this isn’t whataboutism, it’s not an excuse but it simply is not just about the piece of shit IDF. Hamas has responsibility here as well.
They have no intentions of bringing about any kind of peace. Not even short term.
Other than of course, letting the genocide be completed.
They have several avenues to doing so. Legally and morally sound. They could shut it down today. But they won’t.
They have the Leahy Law. Prohibiting the transfer of arms to any country credibly accused of human rights violations. The ICJ has already proven that much. And there is popular support by a wide margin not just at home but around the world to end this. It’s the easiest win of all time. But ending it doesn’t serve US Imperial Aims in the region. They want Netanyahoos “Greater Israel” to use as a base of operations to project force over the whole middle east. Once that is accomplished Iran will be invaded.
there is popular support by a wide margin not just at home
um, no. Reality check: Israel easily has majority support of the US population. Why neither party considers ending arms supply there a good policy to win election.
Check again.
If the question is “do you support Israel”, yeah, but that’s not the question.
At the same time, a bare majority of Americans (53%) agree on restricting military aid to Israel so it cannot use the aid toward military operations against Palestinians, similar to previous readings. Seven in 10 Democrats (68%) and more than half of Independents (54%) support restricting military aid to Israel, while the majority of Republicans (59%) oppose doing so.
Combined, nearly two-thirds of Americans (64%) also say the United States should pressure Israel to accept a ceasefire, either with diplomacy (27%) or by reducing arms shipments (37%). However, three in 10 (29%) say the United States should continue arm shipments to Israel and not pressure it to accept a ceasefire at all. While the majority of Republicans say the United States should continue its arms shipments to Israel and not put any pressure on it (53%), nearly half of Democrats (47%) and a plurality of Independents (42%) say the United States should pressure Israel to accept a ceasefire by reducing its weapons transfers.
Your choice of statistics is misleading. A ceasefire is not an end. It is a temporary reprieve. In the same poll:
Six in 10 Americans (60%) favor the United States supporting Israel militarily until the hostages are returned and about half (49%) favor such support until Hamas is dismantled.
So unless the ceasefire results in Hamas disbanding, or more likely, all the hostages being released reality dictates a ceasefire is not ‘this ending’. America wants Hamas to lose like it or not.
It’s literally the question, unlike vague concepts of “supporting Israel militarily” until an ideology is disbanded (hello War on Terror).
Proposals for a cease fire include releasing all the hostages. And for those that want to somehow accomplish the impossible task of dismantling an ideology, only half support it. Less than half to be precise. And those are mostly Republicans.
Nearly seven in 10 Republicans (67%) favor supporting Israel until Hamas is dismantled, compared to only four in 10 Independents (44%) and Democrats (41%).
Another way to say this is “a majority of Democrats and independents do not favor supporting Israel militarily until Hamas is dismantled”. Yeah, great factoid. One might even call it misleading to use it to indicate Democrats don’t support restricting arms.
I support cutting the military budget by 90% so that doesn’t leave much room for giving away free shit.
Was it the fact that’s its almost been a full year since Israel started carpet bombing Gaza that clued people in?
It shouldn’t take a fucking year of genocide to figure it out.
Oh they know.
They know and they’re complacent.
What does that tell you?
Have we tried giving Israel MORE Guns and Ammunition? That might help Persuade them to Listen!
Biden, who is personally engaged in drawing the U.S. strategy, wants to continue pushing for a deal, but his advisors think a new proposal would go nowhere right now.
It’s almost as though they’re beginning to know something that’s been obvious to the rest of us for the better part of a year.
Israel isn’t going to make any deal which sees them relinquish control of the Philidelphi Corridor, and allow Hamas to rearm and recruit from Egypt in the same way they’ve been doing for a decade. It’s a non starter. Folks still seem to be confused about this. It was hard won, they’re not going to let it go, for good reason.
And we’re not going to accept that.
Genocide isn’t a “hard win” it’s inhumane, Israel cannot be allowed to steal the land of the people it’s killing.
Allowed. Psh. Ain’t nobody stopping them.
