• Noxy
    link
    fedilink
    English
    13 hours ago

    Ah yes, the motherfuckers behind Prop 8.

  • ThePowerOfGeek
    link
    English
    25 hours ago

    Worth a try, I guess. But I know a lot of Mormons, and all of them are already firmly decided for Trump. So I don’t know how much if an impact this will make.

    • Socialist BerserkerOP
      link
      -33 hours ago

      I guess the Mormons around me are built different, because I don’t know any that like Trump.

  • Socialist BerserkerOP
    link
    -568 hours ago

    I’m still not gonna vote for her, but this is a good strategy, because most Mormons are more independent and liberal than people think. I wish more socialist parties would reach out because there is a lot of overlap between socialism and Mormonism.

    Source: I’m Mormon (actually we say LDS now).

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      267 hours ago

      Oh, your profile says you’re a Satanist, which is diametrically opposed to any form of Christianity. Hmm, weird.

    • @cm0002
      link
      157 hours ago

      Oh yea, I almost forgot you were voting for Drump

        • @cm0002
          link
          54 hours ago

          A vote for third party in this country at this time with the current voting system is a vote for Trump. Similarly, a non-vote is a vote for Trump.

          In effect “I’m not voting for Harris” == “I’m voting for Trump”

          Just go join your Trumpet friends on Truth Social already

          • Socialist BerserkerOP
            link
            -83 hours ago

            Just go join your Trumpet friends on Truth Social already

            But I’m not voting for Trump. I’ll stay right here and keep posting. Thanks!

            • @cm0002
              link
              32 hours ago

              Lol whatever you say, Trumpet

    • Pennomi
      link
      English
      217 hours ago

      Mormons really are a different breed of Republican, look how they strongly voted for an independent candidate in 2016 (at least in Utah). That said, the vast majority of those people drank the Trump koolaid and have now fallen in line. It’s sad really, they used to stand for something.

      • Socialist BerserkerOP
        link
        -53 hours ago

        All the Mormons I personaly knwo are still very independent and don’t like Trump. But I’m sure that is based on region.

        • @TrickDacy
          link
          32 hours ago

          Are they also somehow simultaneous fake Satanists?

      • Socialist BerserkerOP
        link
        -53 hours ago

        I’m voting third party. I’ve voted in every election since 1988.

    • Bahnd Rollard
      link
      97 hours ago

      Unfortunatly, until voter and electoral college reforms are past, your choices are red team or blue team. The luxury of voting for who you prefer has been gone for decades. In order to get the policies you support passed you need to vote against the opposition.

      I would have supported burnie for the last entire decade if I didnt feel I had to stand with the crowd against darth cheeto every time I go to the polls.

      What are your congregations thoughts on other counting methods (Ranked choice / Instant run-off / other voting systems)?

      • Socialist BerserkerOP
        link
        -73 hours ago

        your choices are red team or blue team.

        Not my choice. I am voting third party and proudly.

        • @Stovetop
          link
          31 hour ago

          You’re ok with me losing my rights then, and for that I sincerely resent you.

    • @Stovetop
      link
      147 hours ago

      You’re Mormon and you call yourself a socialist?

      Socialism is the antithesis of religion.

      • @dingdongmetacarples
        link
        35 hours ago

        Early Mormon teachings included giving up all your property to the community. Maybe they took that to heart?

        • Socialist BerserkerOP
          link
          -73 hours ago

          Actually lotsa Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.

      • Socialist BerserkerOP
        link
        -63 hours ago

        Actually Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.

      • @sunbrrnslapper
        link
        37 hours ago

        I think OP means the part where both emphasize taking care of your community, since that can be done with or without religion. Some ideas are so good that many groups adopt them.

        • @Stovetop
          link
          87 hours ago

          Religion has very flawed ideas regarding community, however. It always results in a hierarchical structure and works to exclude those who don’t abide by its values.

          It is possible to be a good, selfless person and be religious, but I don’t think it’s possible to have religion without enabling power-grabbing, insular practices too.

        • Socialist BerserkerOP
          link
          -63 hours ago

          You’re exactly right, friend. I don’t believe in all the Mormon religious stuff, but I like the culture, hard work ethic, health attitudes and ideas on education. I’m a proud Mormon socialist.

      • themeatbridge
        link
        2
        edit-2
        7 hours ago

        Socialism is the antithesis of religion.

        Not really. Socialism is a broad term with a lot of meanings. People often assume socialism requires antitheism because specific Communists venerated the state above all, and pointed to religion as a competing priority. Marxism was born in a context where the Church was seen as the ultimate authority. Monarchs and oligarchs claimed divinity as their reason to rule above all. Casting off classism meant defying thousands of years of faith-based indoctrination.

        Today, most capitalist nations are ostensibly secular, or at least exist in cooperation with faith in a way that permits pluralism. Boundaries are strictly geographical, and cultural and ideological exchanges can occur between almost anyone almost anywhere. Governmental authority in most countries is no longer linked to religious faith, so socialist ideals do not necessarily need to contradict any particular religion. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.