Notes on my first charge at a Tesla station:
Holy shit these cables are short, I’m lucky that this stall with a more accessible charger opened up.
The first two chargers I tried didn’t work.
The Tesla app sucks, I had to restart it twice before it let me start charging.
I’m using the A2Z Typhoon Pro adapter, works great!
Not sure where you’re located, but without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company near me. It’s insane and a great reminder to only use these chargers in an emergency when you have a vehicle capable of charging at higher speeds. Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.
This location was $0.44/kwh, another one nearby was $0.62/kwh. The Electrify America station near me is usually $0.45/kwh.
without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company
You cannot use these at all without a Tesla account. That’s how the billing works.
Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.
As someone who actually uses these chargers, that’s not even remotely true, and even if it were, they can deliver the maximum output for this vehicle (which it rarely ever hits) at about 20℅ or less of their maximum output.
You cannot use these at all without a Tesla account
You absolutely can if you own a Ford or Rivian on Plug and Charge. I don’t have a membership, I’ve used the chargers. Confidently incorrect.
As someone who actually uses these chargers
As someone that’s clearly used them longer than you, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
they can deliver the maximum output for this vehicle
That’s why I mentioned vehicles that can charge at a high rate.
It looks like the ones in the median could be used if you nosed in? I know some people like backing in, but it doesn’t look illegal if they’re installed there and the lack of front plant also lends to this too.
Threw this together to explain the issue, not sure if all Tesla stations are like this. Here’s how the chargers are supposed to be used by Teslas:
I can use the charger to my left like this, but then I fuck over that spot while leaving an unused charger unreachable.
If I really squeeze close to the chargers, I can use the left one, but then I fuck up the spot on the other side unless it’s another car with the same charger location as me.
👍 Nice diagrams.
“bolt ev.png” really tied it all together.
Ie read that the cables don’t reach and you end up having to take up 2 spots normally. Not sure if it’s because you have to park one slot over or if you have two park half way between spots though.
They’d never reach if you nosed in. They’re on the wrong side and the cable is too short.
I am fairly certain you could charge any EVs with the Tesla supercharger in most parts of the world. Perhaps it’s just a US thing where it’s limited to just Tesla vehicles.
It’s definitely been a thing in the US for a long time, not sure about the rest of the world. Ford and Rivian were the first to gain access, then GM a couple days ago. Hyundai, Nissan, Lucid, etc still can’t charge at superchargers in the US right now.
Only in the EU where they mandated the inferior CCS2 connectors. That’s why North America is slowly switching to the Tesla (NACS) connector.
It looks like Hyundai may be the first ones to get them.
CCS2 is used in most parts of the world as well.
How do you link the adapter to the Tesla app? I’m surprised they’re ok with any 3rd party hardware.
All the Tesla app knows is that I have a Chevy Bolt and I have an adapter, it doesn’t seem to care what adapter it is.
Didn’t realize the cars were playing along. Thought it was some kind of spoofing or emulation.
Sounds like this is all very new! Exciting!
I thought the only other brands that could charge at Superchargers were Ford and Rivian? Ford explicitly mention this as a feature in their marketing. Did Tesla roll it out to more brands?
It just rolled out to GM a couple days ago.