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As dope as that sounds in theory, I seriously doubt we’re going to run into zero circumstances where someone turns out to be a threat to society in need of containment who also is not experiencing a mental health crisis that justifies placing them in a psych ward instead.
Also, having zero containment protocols endangers victims of stalking, harassment, and intimidation, which is definitely a bad outcome. Stalkers absolutely need to get thrown into a holding space that can keep them from continuing to escalate behavior until their victim either gets killed or kills them in self defense.
It may be better to say “Abolish prison as a first-line treatment for criminality”, but that’s less catchy.
Yeah, but that’s the rub, we still need clear communication.
A slogan is only as good as how little work you need to do fleshing out any possible points of confusion or misunderstanding.
Yeah, that’s why ‘defund the police’ floundered so hard.
On Lemmy, though, for all its other faults, I think the general population is left-wing enough to get it without needing extended clarification.
But that’s the exact danger, if we don’t craft our propaganda and rallying calls to suit the audience who aren’t in the lingo loop that we’re in, then we’re never going to break out of the insulated community to reach coalition partners in actually implementing the change we need
The right has no trouble getting support with “remigtation” and “mass deportation” I’m tired of trying to woo liberals. I’m happy to be extreme in an effort to shift the overton window
I admire your will to shift the overton window, but right wing phrases don’t have to make sense, so we kind of have a different bar to clear here
You just raised two examples of the right expressing exactly what they want to do to defend using terrible slogans that don’t actually convey what is really intended as policy.
Other people being better communicators than you does not justify intentionally continuing to be a bad communicator, especially when you’re trying to oppose them being a better communicator with bad faith intentions.
Well yeah, stalkers have a fixation and are mentally ill. Nobody decides to stalk and terrorize a person when they are on an even keel.
There’s a difference between “y’all need therapy” and “in need of extended mental institutionalization”, and we can’t just write off behaviors we’re uncomfortable with as deriving from some mental malfunction, that’s how you get “it couldn’t happen here” rhetoric.
