According to the human genome project, race doesn’t exist.
According to the human genome project, race doesn’t exist.
So then it shouldn’t bother anyone if someone wants to claim they are a different race. Because it’s just a social construct.
No. This is an act of creepy, antisocial, extremely priveledged selfishness.
This is like identifying as another actual individual person. Like if you were a professional impersonator but instead of impersonating a famous person, you pretended to be the guy who delivered your last pizza.
Or pretending you belong to someone’s family at a family gathering even though every single person there knows you aren’t, because you are a complete stranger to them.
Or showing up at a native American Gathering Of Nations, jumping into a random dance in a costume you bought at Spirit Halloween, and not knowing any of the steps.
It’s an invasion of a private space in which you do not belong, to which you are not entitled. Unlike transgenderism, there is no biological foundation to ground your race assertion in. It’s completely a social construct. Declaring you’re a race is not the same as asserting a different gender, because they have fundamental different goals. Trans people are on a journey to change themselves. These “race presumers” are on a journey to force themselves down everyone else’s throats.
Declaring that social rules don’t apply to you doesn’t work. Society gets to decide how to treat you.
The unwritten rules of society and the consequences of breaking them stop normal people from doing all those things.
The concept of transracial identity is relatively new, but it’s gaining increasing attention from social studies researchers and psychologists as a legitimate area of exploration and understanding. So scientists disagree with you.
But you are free to have your opinion!
You are asserting those statements as fact and providing absolutely no credible sources to back that assertion.
Which is to say you’re entitled enough to presume opinions as well as races, apparently.
So you don’t think social scientists are looking into it? That no scientific articles are being written about studying it? You sure you wanna stick to that statement?
If you have credible sources, accounts from credible scientists, asserting support for any of your presumptions, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t post them.
I have posted them, friend. But here are some for ya.
Were you under the impression I just made everything up? I mean, you are actually in a thread of an article about it. Did you think I wrote the article?!
I didn’t create the word or the phenomenon. lol
Tuvel, Rebecca (2017). “In Defense of Transracialism”. Hypatia. 32 (2): 263–278. doi:10.1111/hypa.12327. ISSN 0887-5367. S2CID 151630261.
Trans: Gender and Race in an Age of Unsettled Identities. Princeton University Press. October 4, 2016. ISBN 9780691172354. Archived from the original on November 29, 2018.
Brubaker, Rogers (2016). “Introduction” (PDF). Trans: Gender and Race in an Age of Unsettled Identities. Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press. pp. 1–11. ISBN 9780691172354. Archived (PDF) from the original on May 27, 2019.
Brubaker, Rogers (2015). “The Dolezal affair: race, gender, and the micropolitics of identity”. Ethnic and Racial Studies. 39 (3): 414–448. doi:10.1080/01419870.2015.1084430. ISSN 0141-9870. S2CID 146583317.
Horne, Marc (October 12, 2021). “Members can identify as black, disabled or female, university union insists”. The Times. Archived from the original on October 13, 2021.
Spickard, Paul (June 2022). “Shape Shifting: Toward a Theory of Racial Change”. Genealogy. 6 (2): 48. doi:10.3390/genealogy6020048. ISSN 2313-5778.
I don’t give a fuck. Be whatever you want as long as you aren’t an asshole.
Agreed!
Telling a group of people you belong to them now, and they don’t have a choice even though you apparently do, counts as being as asshole.
That’s your opinion. Plenty of people said, and still say, that about transgender people as well. So you have plenty of icky company in your thoughts and statements. Good job!
The people who say that about transgender people are wrong. Transgender people are trying to change themselves. Assholes like you are trying to force yourself on others. It’s fundamentally selfish. It’s an act of extreme entitlement and the reason is obvious if you have any empathy: The people you are choosing to identify yourself with don’t have that same privilege, do they?
And racist bigoted assholes like you have no clue what you’re talking about. Keep crying. We’ll keep living our lives and laughing at you. Thanks! :)
Getting called racist by someone posting that they want to presume membership in other people’s races is a new one.
Getting called bigoted for pointing out that maybe you don’t understand the difference between deciding you’re entitled to the collective identity of a people and the struggle a transgender person has to go through simply to exist is incredible.
I’m actually impressed that you’ve convinced yourself that was a win while sticking a 2/10 landing (at best) on those mental gymnastics.
Because you are a racist and a bigot. :)
hi I have 1 (one) question,
what the fuck OP???
I didn’t write the article, friend. Have you decided to bring up your concerns with the editors, publication, and writers of the actual article?
What part seems to have upset you though?
As someone who believes ultimately everything is meaningless and so all that matters is self-actualization, why can someone not be transracial?
Someone can self-actualize into a tree or cow, who cares? Should such people expect human rights, sure. If they maintain social contracts which other people agreed to in society, then why not?
Transracial is interesting because when someone is born they don’t have chromosomal differentiation which can go in any direction to express a different race unless they inherited such genes. Same for other kin, we don’t have natural differential to become wolves, foxes etc.
Gender development is different in this regard as it’s more than a self actualization or identity construct, but based on a persons gene expression. Everyone can be anything between male and female.
Someone can claim trans race I think if they have such genes, but otherwise it’s a bit of make believe like otherkin that society will have to indulge. Whatever, who cares as long someone isn’t a danger to themselves or others. But mixed race people are already accepted, so I think trans race describes people who don’t have access to varied genetic expression.
I think the danger is when someone claims to be trans race and plays up a racist stereotype
Exactly! It doesn’t harm anyone to respect how others wish to be identified. I don’t see it as being any different from someone wanting to be called “they/them” instead of “he” or “she.”
We’ve normalized that, so why not extend the same courtesy to someone who feels a deep connection to another race? It’s like if your name is Sam, but you prefer to be called Tyler because it resonates more with you—fine by me.
But what’s really surprising is the level of hostility I’ve seen since starting this community. A lot of the language being used is the same sort of degrading rhetoric people used to attack transgender individuals.
And people calling me a troll and calling this a racist troll sub because I am talking about these issues. All because they don’t want to admit their own hatred for things that they don’t have experience with.
Thanks for your post, friend!
I don’t think trans race is at all the same as transgender, which is what I meant by the part of variations in gene expression. Neither race or gender expression is a social construct, but how we interpret these things sure is
I see transracial and transgender as having the same issues around identity and self-expression.
If someone feels a strong connection to a different race, I don’t see why respecting that identity is any different from respecting someone’s chosen gender.
The whole concept of transracial identity is relatively new, but it’s starting to get attention from more and more social studies researchers and psychologists as a legitimate area of exploration and understanding.
