• @vxx
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      I guess the question has so be raised how four people died in a car that didn’t roll over.

      The good thing is that Tesla has the records and will release them without issues…

    • @Dasus
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      This is true, yeah. He bought the title of founder.

  • @[email protected]
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    Pretty much all forms of vehicle transport is unsafe. This is why electric cars should be thought of as: good but not ideal.

  • @SomeGuy69
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    If Musk can remote disable the car, can he remote lock the doors and have it speed up?

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      If elon can change the breaking for Full Self Driving, he can disable brakes. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn if some people figure out how to backdoor a Tesla and disable breaks. Companies are horrible at securing data and with elons fire 50% of employees mentality I wouldn’t be surprised if the cybersecurity people get overworked/mess up one day

    • @[email protected]
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      Can a malicious actor remotely do stuff with your thing you connected to the internet?

      Yes.

    • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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      He’ll never admit it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he can.

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    Hmmm I wonder if a vehicle filled with flammable explodey-gas who just drove over 2 metal signs at high speed would be on fire as well? Would it have gotten the attention that this vehicle had, given that ICE cars burn many times more often than EV’s do.

    It is a tragedy and should be investigated but these articles have to get off the “It’s new so it’s bad” bandwagon until the investigators come in. It could have been a flat tire at high speeds that sent the car onto that shoulder and over those signs. There is uneven wear on the tires so on the outside of Regenerative Breaking EV’s tires look almost new on the outside but trashed on the inside. If it blew because of that, or some nail on the road then there is no fault on Tesla and the man-boy who runs it. If however say steering went or the airbag randomly went off when the car was at speed my least favourite Martian and Tesla would be culpable.

    Until then turn the sensationalism on your stories down to 11.

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      no, it wouldn’t. Because the car is not filled with aerosolized explodey-gas, but just flammable liquid contained in a robust tank. it is not explosive. It can catch fire, but not simply from impact. You’d need a hole in the tank lower than the current fuel level and an external ignition source. Even if you shoot the gas tank directly, it will not explode. It is physically impossible for it to explode.

      Puncture one of an electric car’s cells, and it sets off a chain reaction. The whole car very quickly goes up in flames.

      • @Paddzr
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        “Robust”? Clearly you’ve never driven an itlian made car!

        Alphas tanks are literally made out of plastic. You can poke them with a basic screwdriver.

        Yeah it won’t go boom, but point being, they’re not robust and go in flames fairly often too…

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      I’m a fan of EVs, but Tesla lacks security safety and I’m not a fan of it.

      It’s too complicated to leave the car when power is off for example.

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        Yep. That’s my issue. It’s not the fire, it’s that it’s really hard to get out in a disaster.

        The Tesla could just have easily killed four if it crashed into water.

        • @Paddzr
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          You mean, the mechanical handle present? I’m not sure if older cars over a decade ago didn’t have em, but my model 3 has mechanical release on every hinged part. Even the drunk, which no human being would even fit in (I think, I guess a toddler might?).

          • Vanon
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            Do you think the average Tesla driver knows about these? Are they easy to find and use in an emergency? Could they be easily improved?

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        If I recall correctly, the manual override for the electric inner door handle is hidden under some panel. Major lawsuit material if you ask me, and irresponsible by the certifying authorities,

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          FWIW, pretty much every car on the road actually has a switch which completely disables the inside rear door latch.

        • @[email protected]
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          You recall wrongly. It’s totally exposed, available all the time. Lots of people who are new actually activate it instead of the button that lowers the window before opening.

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            And the passengers on the back seats?

            That’s Model 3 from the article.

            And Cybertruck:

            On BMW you pull the door handle twice

    • Diva (she/her)
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      If I made a metal cage for rich people that locked and set on fire, I would go to prison for life probably. This guy does that and sells it to them

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      Some reasons why they probably would be fine in a normal car

      1. Central computer controls everything. A crashing computer means a crashing car

      2. Electronic door locks. When you crash youre going to have a hard time opening the door

      3. Shatterproof windows mean if your door won’t open, you’re BBQ

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        the second point shouldn’t be true, the handles of the front doors should mechanically unlock the door as they are opened. the sub-humans in the back blew what they were getting into.

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    Tesla, founded by the billionaire CEO Elon Musk, has frequently faced scrutiny over safety issues.

    That is incorrect

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      Is this the company where he paid a sum of money to the real founder or founders to be called the founder?
      Or was that another company?

          • Flying Squid
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            And it worked. That’s the worst part. This article and others call him the founder.

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        Legally how? Was Musk on the original state registration?

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    It was Saturday evening around 10pm, three restaurant employees went into one of the client car to “try it out”, the client (65 years old) was clearly speeding, lost control of the vehicle, left the road and hit a traffic sign.

    My bet is that all of that has nothing to do with the fact that this was a Tesla, the only difference is the fire but this is the same for every electric vehicle.

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    I’m halfway through rewatching Demolition Man as of yesterday evening. Simon Phoenix blew up the capacitance gel in a car using one of the cop’s electrical night sticks. I can only assume that Musk is now going to unfreeze John Spartan to deal with these crimes.

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    Ooooo sorry, you waived your right to a trail by jury in the EULA you signed.

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    According to preliminary reports, the vehicle rammed into several road signs at high speed.

    Place your bet. 1.5x reward for people placing bet on faulty "F"SD.

    Edit: so FSD is off the bet.

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      Sorry to burst your bubble, but FSD isn’t available in France.

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      I place my bet on the brake paddle slipping off. It’s a known issue.

      Edit: Apaprently it affected cybertrucks, not Model 3