• Skeezix
    link
    English
    202 days ago

    Do they stupidly think trump will be better?

    • @Zachariah
      link
      English
      222 days ago

      Wouldn’t a more effective plan be to vote her in and then have protests, letter writing, strikes, media campaign, etc., to change U.S. policy?

      Because with Trump there is no negotiation unless they can buy him, and even that’s not a guarantee.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        823 hours ago

        You have to understand that most Arab Americans in Michigan are lower ‘c’ conservative and frustrated the Republicans won’t accept them. Unless the Dems completely abandon Israel to total destruction, they’ll threaten to vote R.

        • @Zachariah
          link
          English
          622 hours ago

          If that’s true, it’s a terribly shortsighted strategy.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      32 days ago

      No, I doubt that they’re stupid. They don’t think that they other guy will be better. However, I also doubt that Sophie Scholl thought that her death alone would stop the Holocaust. Sometimes there’s a moral line that you just can’t cross.

      • @IMALlama
        link
        English
        112 days ago

        I wish Harris was coming out more strongly, or at all really, against Israel’s genocide. I can’t imagine Trump will do anything substantial to reduce the conflict, certainly not more than Harris will.

        I do not understand the Sophie Scholl analogy. Sophie distributed anti-war leaflets, among other things. She did not advocate voting for another party that would likely just continue the war, while also removing other freedoms, into power.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -123 hours ago

          The connection that I have in mind is, “doing what’s moral, even if it might harm yourself.”

          • @IMALlama
            link
            English
            614 hours ago

            I do not understand how supporting Trump will result in a better outcome in Gaza 🤷 If anything, it seems like the opposite is likely.

      • Skeezix
        link
        English
        11
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        Voting for trump (or proxy voting for him) is crossing a moral line.

        And brings them further from their goal.

        Rage voting doesn’t fix anything. It stands to make it worse.

        I can’t understand some people’s drive to vote in a tyrant because they’re annoyed by a centrist.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -123 hours ago

          The hitch is that other people do what’s right according to their own moral reckoning, whether you understand it or not.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            24 hours ago

            Or, as we call it, cutting off the nose to spite the face.

            As long as they own the side effects, then cool.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            4
            edit-2
            13 hours ago

            I don’t think voting for Trump will help the Palestinians, when he says things like,

            “you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time." Trump said that Israel must “finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”