The big financial moments in life used to be marked with a flourish of a pen. Buying a house. A car. Breakfast.

Not anymore. Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express dropped the requirement to sign for charges like restaurant checks in 2018. They don’t look at our scribbles to verify identity or stop fraud. Taps, clicks and electronic signatures took over the heavy lifting for many everyday purchases—and many contracts, loan applications and even Social Security forms. The John Hancock was written off as a relic useful mainly to inflate the value of sports memorabilia.

But signatures didn’t die.

We continue to be asked to sign with ink on paper or using fingers on touch screens at many restaurants, bars and other businesses. And people keep signing card receipts out of habit—even when there is no blank space for it—because it feels weird not to, payment networks and retail groups say.

“Traditions have this odd way of sticking around,” said Doug Kantor, general counsel of the National Association of Convenience Stores.

  • @[email protected]
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    729 minutes ago

    “We” don’t, outside of America tap is the norm and I’ve made payments up to 1200$ with only a pin entry required. It’s kind of bizarre that if I pay 7 bucks in the US for a pastry and coffee I might need to sign the receipt.

  • @[email protected]
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    49 minutes ago

    I’m old enough to have had to sign credit card receipts in Europe. I routinely signed “Mickey mouse” and stuff like that. Never had a second look.

  • @BananaTrifleViolin
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    343 hours ago

    American problems. Not experienced this is in well over a decade in the UK an travelling.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 hours ago

      I’d never signed a credit or debit card in my life until I travelled to the US last year, and then I only did it because I’d heard stories of places confiscating cards if they weren’t signed. Don’t know how true they are now but I wasn’t risking it.

      • @[email protected]
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        126 minutes ago

        This isn’t talking about signing the back of a card (you should do that if the card requires it but most non-US places don’t) instead it’s talking about how many receipts you need to sign in America… and it’s a mind boggling number.

      • r00ty
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        42 hours ago

        Yes, chip and pin has been the established norm for decades now. Wait until we tell them about the last time most of us wrote a cheque (check)!

  • @MurrayL
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    584 hours ago

    Funny how this is posted to World, but it’s an exclusively American phenomenon. I’m in the UK and haven’t had to use my physical signature to pay for anything for about fifteen years, let alone something as trivial as a restaurant bill.

    • @SlopppyEngineer
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      114 minutes ago

      If you pay in a supermarket with your card and ask for a cash withdrawal too, you have to sign the receipt for receiving the money.

    • Flamekebab
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      33 hours ago

      I don’t think I’ve ever signed anything when a card is involved. Cheques back when they were a thing, sure, but they were all but irrelevant fifteen years ago.

      • Dragon "Rider"(drag)
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        11 hour ago

        Drag disagrees. Drag thinks they were actually very few things but irrelevant fifteen years ago. Perhaps in addition to being “irrelevant” they were also “old fashioned” and “pointless”. But not much else. Mostly just irrelevant.

          • Dragon "Rider"(drag)
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            11 hour ago

            Drag speculates that 200 years ago some bad writer mixed up “nothing but” for “all but” and now we’re dealing with the consequences because nobody since then has bothered to do any critical thinking. It’s a very simple problem with a very simple solution.

      • r00ty
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        22 hours ago

        I think cheques were almost irrelevant in the 90s already. For sure I remember the two things I had to write a cheque for. DVLA for the olde tax disk every year, and the speeding fine I got in 1996.

        Until around 2005, I was using my 1994 issued chequebook, crossing out the 19, initialling the change and writing in the full year.

        I still have the chequebook issued in 2005 to this day.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 hours ago

    Basically, the US banking system is made up of many smaller banks, unlike most other countries where there are fewer, larger banks.

    This coupled with a large land mass with high population makes it more difficult to make the expensive infrastructure upgrades necessary for modern banking innovations like tap to pay and the loss of the need for physical signatures.

    Many of these innovations are only making it to the US now because of larger foreign banks entering the US market, as well as the plummeting costs of technology.

    • @[email protected]
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      224 minutes ago

      Ehhh, the US has like half a dozen banks that represent 90% of the customer base and lots of countries have smaller banks. Canada probably has a more fragmented banking system and yet interact integration was pretty smooth.

  • Skeezix
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    53 hours ago

    Assuming that American problems are world problems is just another form of American exceptionalism.

  • @cm0002
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    174 hours ago

    They don’t look at our scribbles

    Are you fucking kidding me‽ All those houses, Forests, dicks, landscapes and stick figures I drew over the years were for naught‽‽

  • Annoyed_🦀
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    22 hours ago

    Malaysia, the so-called developing country, not an issue since 2017. Pretty sure it doesn’t fit c/worldnews lol.

    • @ohwhatfollyisman
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      well, that and maybe because it does help us communicate with all the aurally challenged people around us.