• Hildegarde
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    There are orders of magnitude more nonvoters than third party voters. The nonvoters swing elections, not third party voters.

    I am yet to find a single us presidential election with only two candidates. Third parties have and will always exist. Any candidate who doesn’t account for this fact is irresponsible.

    If harris loses its her fault and no one else’s.

  • Ada
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    Is it a third party, or is it refusing to stand firm against genocide?

      • Ada
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        Or… one side choosing not to support genocide…

        Why isn’t that an option?

        Edit - And don’t get me wrong. I’m not from the US, but I’d still vote Democrats in this election if I was, because they have other policies that would impact me more directly. But either way it’s disingenuous to blame the party offering to denounce genocide as the issue, when the only real options both support it…

        • @[email protected]
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          There is that option but I doubt you have the stomach to pull that lever in the voting booth.

    • @[email protected]
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      I guess but taking action against Israel is not really consistent with her election strategy of winning over Never Trumpers.

    • @WaxedWookie
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      214 hours ago

      Both can be (and are) true.

      The transparently Russia-backed spoiler candidates with absolutely no path to victory in a FPTP election have no value to anyone beyond their ability to siphon off votes from the two viable candidates.

      RFK pulled out when it became clear that he would disrupt Trump more than Harris, and Stein remains in the race because she remains a valuable diversion for would-be Democrat voters.

      …and yes - Kamala sacrificing the left to court the centre right by adopting Republican framing and policies isn’t particularly effective because if people want a Republican, they’ll vote Republican.

      • Hildegarde
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        -19 hours ago

        the green party has nominated a candidate, and ran in every single presidential election since 1996. why would they suddenly decide to drop out now?

        • @WaxedWookie
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          They should drop out because they have no path to victory, typically capture <1% of the vote, peaked at 2.7%, have no Senate seats, no house seats, no governorships - state or territorial, no chambers seats - upper or lower… But most importantly, they’re siphoning votes away from the more progressive viable option, providing meaningful support to the worst possible option in doing so.