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Quit Stalin, it’s time to be Putin Tankies in their place!
It’s fun to dunk on Tankies, but let’s be real.
Hitler killed more Slavs than Stalin. And the Holdomor was a famine not caused by Stalin. Millions were going to die. Stalin chose Ukrainian Slavs to starve instead of Moscow Slavs.
The Sovs literally continued exporting grain during the Holodomor. It was absolutely a choice by Stalin to create starvation conditions.
I already said that. They took Ukrainian grain and shipped it to Moscow.
The 4 million Ukrainian Slavs dead still isn’t greater than the 20 million Slavs killed by Hitler.
I already said that. They took Ukrainian grain and shipped it to Moscow.
You said
And the Holdomor was a famine not caused by Stalin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930–1933
The famine affected a large area of eastern Europe, not just Ukraine.
And the Soviets continued exporting grain from the Soviet Union itself, not just Ukraine, during the famine. Enough to feed millions of people. This was a choice made by Stalin.
You are right! I’m am sorry.
I still stand by my statement that Hitler killed more Slavs than Stalin.
Yeah, that’s probably true, unless one wishes to subject a certain percentage of the deaths in WW2 to Stalin’s decisionmaking. That would, by my count, be unfair, even though Stalin’s shares some responsibility for splitting Poland with genocidaires, letting the Nazis sucker-punch the USSR, and then a series of questionable decisions in defense of the Soviet Union. Ultimately, Hitler is the one at primary fault for the those deaths.
You seem soft on forced starvation.
Are you fucking dense?
Hitler killed 20 million Slavs. Stalin killed 4 million Ukrainian Slavs.
Do you think Stalin is worse than Hitler?
What statistics are you referencing? I’m not doubting you, I’m just curious. Regardless of the answer, if we don’t stand up to Russia, we will be doomed World War statistics. Most of the numbers I’ve found suggest a battle of attrition over supplies, not men. In regards to history, relatively few men have died, but the cost of arms has gone up astronomically. Consumer drones might put that into question eventually. That and Putin. If we’re literally talking about the statistical number of deaths Putin has caused, maybe, MAYBE it’s greater than Stalin, but then we get into the definition of “responsibility.” Okay, I’m doubting you, but I want to be wrong.
The numbers that would put Stalin ahead of Hitler are the ones from fascists that blame Stalin for the deaths in WW2, but it’s also not a complete blowout without them so whatever.
I’m not sure why you’d think Putin could compare to either, ever, but the point is it’s a new millennium so his only real competition is alcohol manufacturing.
i mean… that is one of the most volatile regions in the world in the 21st century and it is almost entirely putin causing that. if there’s little competition then it’s because he’s the only major power in the region stuck in last centurie’s mindset and trying to pull the rest of us back. everyone else being better now is a point against putin.
it’s like the rest of the world saw WWII as a lesson on how not to be, and he saw glory.
