• @brucethemoose
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    Why does Trump always get a pass?

    It’s like everyone against him has to be an utter saint, and one wrong move? Welp, voting for Trump, I guess.

    And yes, strategically… this makes no sense for anyone who cares about what’s happening in Israel.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      Saint? Saint?! Do you understand what you’re saying right now? The Harris campaign has repeatedly refused to even engage with Arab voters, let alone address their concerns about their friends and family being murdered. To Arab American voters and organizations who have been thoroughly ignored and excluded by the Harris campaign, yeah fuck that of course they’re not voting for her.

      • @PugJesus
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        386 hours ago

        It’s amazing what lengths you’ll go to to make apologia for ushering in fascism.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          Sigh Do you understand how condescending you’re being right now? I got zero sympathy for y’all if Trump loses. With this attitude you’re doing it to yourselves. By the way you should read this. It’s just a Lemmy comment, but it summarizes what I wanna say to you and people who act like you better than I can myself.

          • @PugJesus
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            296 hours ago

            Sigh Do you understand how condescending you’re being right now?

            Oh, I’m so sorry for condescending to people who think it’s no big deal if people like me are thrown into a camp and murdered for literally no gain, material or moral, for them, because it makes their privileged asses feel smug about how pure they are, or some bullshit.

            Well, put yourself in their shoes, and ask yourself why the fuck you would care what happens then? If your family is going to be genocided either way, and one party is going to be worse, but the end result is the same… Why do you care? Your allies don’t care, so why should you?

            “It’s going to be worse, but also the same; and why would you care about literally anyone else?”

            Like I said. It’s like calling for LGBT folk to usher in Bush Jr. because Al Gore isn’t LGBT-friendly enough. But hey, fuck everyone else and yourselves, right? It’s about that feeling of purity you get when filling out your ballot, right?

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              Yeah I got nothing else to say. If you think that makes you a guardian of democracy or whatever instead of a bootlicker, then go ahead. I’m not American either way so I’ll be watching with popcorn.

              • @PugJesus
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                276 hours ago

                Yeah I got nothing else to say. If you think that makes you a guardian of democracy or whatever instead of a bootlicker, then go ahead. I’m not American either way so I’ll be watching with popcorn.

                “Ha ha good thing America doesn’t affect the rest of the world, and who cares about American minorities getting genocided anyway?”

                Do you lot even try anymore?

      • halyk.the.red
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        Also the democratic party has been in power, enabling the genocide for over a year.

        • macniel
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          That genocide has been going on for more than an adminstration though.

  • @[email protected]
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    297 hours ago

    One of those two people is going to be elected. One of them will do nothing, and the other will actively make it worse.

  • @DirkMcCallahan
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    “I’ll vote to install a fascist government that will give Israel a blank check to destroy the Palestinians. That’ll show Harris!”

  • @PugJesus
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    418 hours ago

    But I was told no one would ever consider letting Trump win and that it was just Very Concerned People™ voicing their concerns, not an attempt to throw the election to literal fascists???

    In her view, it’s not her personal responsibility to stop Trump; it’s Harris’s and the Democrats’. And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected. Choosing to sit out or vote third party is a way to remind the major parties that they aren’t doing enough.

    God I love it when people treat voting as a spiritual responsibility and not a matter of being entrusted with political power, really makes me feel great about the state of civic education in this fucking country.

    • @[email protected]
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      116 hours ago

      And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected.

      This is honestly the worst part of this whole thing, because if it happens, they won’t even have a come to Jesus “Wow, maybe I shouldn’t have done that” moment that might influence their actions in the future - instead it will just galvanize them against the party that they are ideologically closest to.

      • @PugJesus
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        It would be like if LGBT folk in 2000 said Gore wasn’t LGBT-friendly enough, so they were fine with Bush winning.

        Do they have legitimate complaints? Yes. Does that justify ushering in someone who will be worse for literally everyone? Fuck no.

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          I’ve literally seen people make that argument against Kamala. Apparently she’s not LGBTQ friendly enough 🙄

          While also conveniently ignoring that Republicans are the ones blocking any progress.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      With the massive middle finger Harris has been giving Arabs since the start of her campaign, how the fuck are you surprised?

      • @PugJesus
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        96 hours ago

        I’m not at all surprised. I guess the sarcasm in the first line wasn’t thick enough for some people to parse. This is exactly what I expected from day 1 of this style of agitation, no matter how many times people swore up and down that it definitely wasn’t about ushering in a fascist dictatorship via Trump, just ‘expressing’ a desire for policy change.

        Turns out it was all bad faith bullshit, just like so many of us recognized even at the time. Quelle surprise.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          -136 hours ago

          With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican. The sheer condescension and speed of rejecting any idea you don’t agree with is astounding and frustrating. You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship; I’ll be watching while you lose Michigan (and maybe one other state) to the groupthink.

          • DominusOfMegadeus
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            Please stope writing and go away. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad. The rest of us are willing to sacrifice a limb to save the patient. None of us enjoy it or are glad to have to make that choice, but WE HAVE TO SAVE THE PATIENT YOU JACKBOOTED DIMWIT.

          • @PugJesus
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            126 hours ago

            You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship;

            With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican.

            Mask off, really just astounding.

  • @_bcron_
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    It’s not like Biden or Harris could’ve done a thing without being labeled a bunch of incompetent flip-floppers.

    Imagine Trump saying they took too long, and the blood is on their hands, and he’d never do such a thing. But we all know how he handles stuff - on a golf course.

    They’d just get Benghazi-ed and Gaza would still get leveled because Trump likes showing off how can do stuff like that. Probably make some off-hand disparaging comments about the dead like he usually does. His supporters would say even worse and laugh about all of it, run over the protesters, bust out the fire hoses, all that. Like they usually do.

    So, who you gonna vote for? Hopefully not a bunch of assholes that’ll openly mock you or even drive a car through a crowd (like what has happened). Trump would say that there are good people on both sides after you get your shit kicked in at a protest. Don’t let 2020 make you forget how shitty 2016-2018 was because it was.

    They’ll take anything from you, do anything to you, spit right in your face and walk away laughing, and you’ll just curl up screaming because there’s no recourse, like the good old days under Trump. Still, all for naught

  • @[email protected]
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    137 hours ago

    Who wants to vote swap with me? I’ll write in Refaat Alareer if someone votes Kamala in a swing state. I’m in California so don’t tell me I’d be wasting my vote.

  • Nytixus
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    If they vote Trump, then I’ll be secretly clamoring for them to be deported out of America.

    • @PugJesus
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      167 hours ago

      It’s possible to decry someone’s choices without wishing for more fascism, believe it or not.

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        -76 hours ago

        Louder. You need to hear it.