• @[email protected]
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      641 month ago

      i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.

      • @trolololol
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        191 month ago

        Maybe most of these are bots? And maybe paid by the owner to generate traffic?

    • @[email protected]
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      541 month ago

      At 50$ a pop it’s 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.

      • @[email protected]
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        181 month ago

        It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!

        Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).

        So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.

        I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.

      • @[email protected]
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        181 month ago

        Yup, was one of the first bits I thought of too…

        I still paraphrase his “your stuff is shit, my shit is stuff” to this day… 😅

        We really need someone to fill the massive shoes he left behind - an individual able to call out all the egregious bullshit.

    • Kokesh
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      141 month ago

      People is stupid

      • @Freefall
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        51 month ago

        8 magastupids of emails

  • @[email protected]
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    Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.

  • TJA!
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    800.000 people?

    Talking bullshit seems to pay very good

    <edit> yes not everyone was paying, but still: </edit>

    If accurate, the site at minimum would generate upwards of $5,650,000 every month.

  • @affiliate
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    ”Money making is a skill,” the website states. “We will teach you how to master it.”

    step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.

    there is no step 2

  • @ATDA
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    691 month ago

    800,000 lusers*

  • @gcheliotis
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    Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void

      • @gcheliotis
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        41 month ago

        I think you’re spot on.

        • @[email protected]
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          71 month ago

          It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.

          • @gcheliotis
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            51 month ago

            Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 month ago

      According the “hustler’s university 4.0” website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)

      Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it’s not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I’ll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it’s not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.

      • @umbraroze
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        It’s apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there’s apparently a hard sell to “commit” to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won’t let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that’s a sacred vow, bro, you can’t violate that, bro.

      • @gcheliotis
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        11 month ago

        Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.

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      I don’t even think it’s Andrew Tate specifically and I think that’s a big problem.

      I’m in my early 30s and grew up being ‘the tech generation’, adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something’s and even teens and they’ve surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.

      Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they ‘like it’.

      I guess what I’m saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.

      • @gcheliotis
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        I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

        • @Woht24
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          It’s not technology alone, but what was previously a local ordeal is now spread worldwide and with our ever interesting screen time to the point some people live half their life digitally, it’s only getting worse.

  • @[email protected]
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    My friend’s brother almost fell victim to this cult. If he’s anything to go by most members will be vulnerable idiots.

    • @Dasnap
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      It’s good that people are able to get out of it, though. How’s he doing nowadays?

    • @ChronosTriggerWarning
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      I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It’s really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.

    • @TrueStoryBob
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      I mean,800k seems low actually… it was up and running for like six or seven years. Maybe the prices were too steep?

  • fmstrat
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    411 month ago

    Read the article, it’s so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.

  • @[email protected]
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    301 month ago

    It’s interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        We have a friend who looks a ton like him when he mean-mugs, but is nicer than all of us combined, which just makes his Tate face funnier.

    • @db2
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      41 month ago

      You’re not impressed by that strong manly jawline?

        • @Duamerthrax
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          171 month ago

          Irrelevant. Tate doesn’t just want sex. He wants ownership of women and a cult following of sad, little men. He’s methods and motives are exactly the same as cult leaders.

        • TheRealKuni
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          51 month ago

          We could also just have more wars so young men get killed off in swathes every decade or so.

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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            Like old times, our young men and their young men decimate each other, then they go murder and rape whoever they can on the other side. Make wars great again!

    • @Tyfud
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      That is correct.

      No notes.

  • Vanth
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    261 month ago

    Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.

    • fmstrat
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      81 month ago

      HaveIBeenPwned has the list. Could one-by-one check?

    • @psmgx
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      71 month ago

      One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.

      The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate’s fanbase is mostly younger. I’m sure there is some overlap but probably small.

    • GladiusB
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      71 month ago

      It’s parked next to Trump University

  • @psmgx
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    171 month ago

    Wonder how many were bots, like Ashley Madison, that exist to pump numbers and increase engagement