I’m not right leaning, but I live in a right leaning area, and I think most all of us could stand a bit of time back in nature. So here’s what I would consider.
- A hunting or fishing license and classes
- A long weekend camping in the woods
- A trip to a national park
- Boat license lessons
- A craft class at a local Uni, like welding or pottery. They’re usually pretty cheap and a lot of fun
- A rafting trip
Not knowing him at all nor what he likes, perhaps a guitar and guitar lessons. That’s something I truly enjoyed in my late teens/early 20s. Or tickets to a music show or comedian he likes.
By “fascist” you mean “supports ethnic cleansing”, or “doesn’t agree with me on every single political issue”?
Which political issue do you get called fascist for?
Its sad as fuck that this needs to be asked. The word facist used to mean something.
I’d recommend some Scott Galloway. He’s an advocate for young men, but he’s not one of those toxic manosphere types. He’s not exactly a leftist, but he’s certainly a liberal by today’s standards.
Perhaps if u talked to ur son abput his beliefs and didnt invalidate his opinions simply because u disagree u might both learn a little and grow as people. Calling ur son a fascist is only going to make him more steadfast in his beliefs.
Trying to force him to believe what u want instead of teaching him to think fof himself and excercise his free will to develop his own identity separate from what u told him might be a wise idea.
As for what to get him for Christmas how about sonthibg unrelated to politics that he legitimately wants. Go speak to him and ask him.
A lot of young men are sucked into this world, what you have described is exactly what I took OP to be looking for.
They might get them a membership to a gym or tools for a hobby that allows them to socialise outside of online.
Op mever called their son a fascist or mentioned they want them to believe the same thing. Fascism is harmful, thats why even the fascists call the others fascists, it is not a bad idea to want to realign someone’s viewpoint with reality.
Specifically try to get him into some hobby or social activity that will draw his attention away from the fasc stuff. Was there anything he used to love, any friends he’s drifted away from that you could try and get him talking to again through a shared activity?
Source: am psych nurse. You don’t confront / directly argue with delusions and other thoughts related to maladaptive social behavior; you subtly reduce their attractiveness while encouraging healthy human connection.
Additionally, I would suggest activities that doesn’t isolate him further or put him in a group of like minded people. Cooking classes would be nice.
Ignore all the joke answers here. It seems insensitive given the subject matter. He’s probably lonely and feeling left out. If he has siblings it’s all the more likely. I was an alienated teenager who was in a place similar to your son I think. I eventually realized I and many others we’re being used to further the agenda of some unsavory fucks who wanted to send us back to the 1860’s. Try to show him how much he means to you. Let him know you care about him. Just don’t drive him away, Show some love and compassion and he’ll realize he’s drinking the kool-aid eventually I think. Hope this helps, good luck!
holocaust documentary with real footage so he can see what the end consequences of that shit is. if seeing hundreds of naked emaciated corpses getting thrown nto huge mass graves with bulldozers doesn’t make him rethink then he’s a fucking psycho.
I don’t know how else to show him I love him or that he’s a part of this family.
The more you try to overtly meddle the more the kid will be convinced of their beliefs, reactionaries thrive off disagreement and arguments.
Get them something normal, perhaps something the connects with nature. Your goal should be to get them to connect with you and the rest of the family, you want them too feel like they are part of the in-group.
Isnt this the same type of thing the church tries to do? “Make em feel part of the in-group” thats pure psychopathic manipulation right there.
My brother/sister/nonbinary sibling in christ “make your kids feel included in the family” is absolutely not in any way psychopathic manipulation.
In the context of this thread part of the in group would imply a political in group which would be psychopathic manipulation. Ur implication was very simply “make your kids feel included in the family as long as they agree with my ideology”. Do not change the meaning of what u said post saying it. Do not bullshit on my leg and call it a brown kitten.
I’m not the guy you originally replied to. I’m a random third party that read what he said, read what you said, and then commented what I did.
I didn’t read “you want them to feel like part of the in-group” as political. I read it as “you want them to feel like part of the family”
At no point was the qualifier, “as long as they agree with your ideology” included. You invented that yourself.
How do you contact brain washing without other brain washing?
They’re not going to logic out of a belief that they didn’t logic into.
Doing political stuff for Christmas is one way to ensure you have a nazi kid forever. Just ignore the politics, give a normal gift. Love will conquer all the hatred that he has. Good luck.
Love will conquer all the hatred
Not only that, but the hatred on the right will consume them. Sit back, lay low, don’t participate and let the fools burn themselves. Opposition will only give them targets to blame for their failures.
Start with video games. But try to make it a game that has couch co-op so your family can come together.
I don’t see that much in modern games sadly. Tekken 8 has it, that’s all I can think of.
Coal. For some reason Republicans love that stuff.
Why is his political opinion important for a Christmas present? Just give him something he’d like.
And if all he wants for Christmas is an ethnically homogeneous fatherland?
Just stick to socks I say.
Just make sure they’re white.
I’d suggest NOT giving him more liberalism, since that has already demonstrated the predictable outcome.
Indeed. Perhaps a positive reinforcement?
I would say, a good conversation. Listen to him, ask question, don’t be too judgemental (and that can be hard). But also accept, that for a big part, you can’t form/force his way of thinking. In the end he has to find his own way in life.
