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Honestly? I don’t think it’s ready for the migration that’s going to take place in January (supposedly, January). The USA will ban TikTok and people still debate in the comments what should be the new short videos platform. I really want to spread the message about Loops, but I was unable to create an account just a few days ago. It won’t work for thousands and thousands of people that want something efficient and do not appreciate the Fediverse effort as we do.
Mastodon itself couldn’t compete against BlueSky. I think Loops has a month to be a real TikTok alternative or it faces the same destiny as Mastodon (or Lemmy).
I’ve never seen Loops but i like it purely because it reminds me of
I joined as soon as it was open. Very quickly it was full of junk TiKtok videos (many with the Tiktok logo). As others have said you have to keep scrolling through the same videos in the same order to see anything new.
The feature that’s missing is some sort of “filter creator” that would enable users to build their own algos.
(To be fair, I can’t see why Tiktok works as an app other than as some global-scale brainwashing tool.)
The new build 11 released yesterday lets you see only loops from people you follow. There’s also a “For You” option that I assume will eventually do what you’re looking for. Right now it shows loops sorted by newest, like before
I dont really care for short form videos anyway and have never used the likes of Instagram / tik tok etc but now that I’m seeing loops videos pop up on my Lemmy feed I’ll occasionally see something I’m interested in. However not being able to mute the video before starting to play it instantly puts me off and as such I ignore anything loops based already…
I tried to sign up, blasted thing spun forever and threw an error. Not ready for prime time.
I noticed they needed to approve my account or something. Took a few days to get the email.
5000 videos and it only shows you the same ones, in the same order, with 0 media controls, or search & filter functions. I just don’t get this format.
it quite annoys me as well. “No annoying algorithms!”
…great. so it will never learn what content I actually like to see and will feed me random crap I don’t want to see.
i get like the same 5 videos of someone walking around outside and a couple of ads for stuff I’m not even remotely interested in.
I’m completely fine with “no algorithms”, I even want that. But you have to give the user control over what they want to watch instead of just throwing random videos at them.
Being able to choose what it will show you would be cool and not require stealing your data to customize your feed
Google is the closest thing to that that i know, but their implementation is terrible
Which service specifically are you referring to? YT’s search function has been constantly degrading over the years and spews out more unrelated bullshit than ever. And their algorithms are the worst and most moronic thing ever, and also somehow got worse over the years.
Hidden in the google account settings, you can find what googles algorithm thinks you like and remove inaccurate things
As far as i know, you cant add things
This is the only algorithm i know that you can kinda customize
That’s just your history of what you watched, liked, disliked, etc. The problem is that the system behind it is inherently stupid. You liked Vintage Story? Here’s some Minecraft! And since they’re games, you likely also like OTHER GAMES! Right? So here’s some Roblox and Fortnite! Our trends say those are super popular with the cool guys and you surely are a cool guy too, right?! And with that comes all the clickbait bullshit too, so I say I’m not interested in those channels and block them, so YT now thinks I dislike gaming and scrubs everything again, until I manually search & watch another video of a game because obviously it also scrubbed the ones I’m interested in. Or you watched some music videos, REPEATEDLY? Here’s all the videos you previous have watched! Now you have to click, not interested, click for why, click you have watched it already, click okay. Repeat for every video you ever watched until YT gets the hint, for at least a day or two until it repeats the stupidity again.
You literally have to fight the system constantly. It’s why I don’t watch YT much anymore, or use private tabs now, which bring their own issue now that they also frequently block VPN IPs and ask you to log in, but that would then again muddle my watch history and consequently spam my feed with all sorts of irrelevant shit that I don’t want.
The only thing that got better over the years is the video quality, like from an encoding standpoint, the content quality went way down.
As far as i know, that is for the ad algorithm, not for youtube
I dont understand why you cant choose what things you want to be recommended to you
I’m asking myself this question for many years. Especially since YT videos are categorized to a degree. Give users control over keywords, both to like more of them, and to filter certain ones out. Obviously not perfect either because not everything is going to be properly categorized & tagged, but it would be so much better than the current mess where some brain dead algorithm tries to figure out what I like.
agreed. there is a way to keep that algorithm private. on a person to person case.
that information would just have to not be sold. thats the difference.
an algorithm wouldn’t be inherently evil. the data collected is what’s potentially dangerous. but if its kept to just your personal account, it could be quite safe
and make the app less of a chore to use.
Quiblr for lemmy does this i think
Is Dansup personally building the entire fediverse? I didn’t realize loops was a fedi thing, tbh. Just started noticing it the other day, seems awesome.
Was there every any progress on sup? I’d love to find a way to get my family to ditch whatsapp
Get them on Signal, I’d say. :)
Yea, he got a bit too much on his shoulders I believe.
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I’m mildly annoyed it’s not called Unspooled
This will be booming once TikTok will be banned in the US haha
Definitely won’t without an algorithm, the general public would hate just seeing random videos not tailored to their preferences.
I hope so, but I feel like people will move to youtube shorts or whatever instagram calls theirs before they would consider Loops, just like they chose Bluesky over Mastodon.
Instagram reels.
Exactly, these users want a relatively efficient app with an algorithm that shows interesting content without the effort of looking for it.
I personally love the things TikTok puts on my feed (philosophy, science, arts, political opinions, medical advice…). I don’t think I would have been able to find a lot of those things on my own. For instance, it’s been amazing to understand some of my health conditions: a video about a random symptom (and how to address it) sometimes shows on my feed and it’s like: “Wow! I didn’t know that! Thank you”.
So… it’s not just laziness, not in my case. I hate that algorithms have been radicalizing my parents politically. I love that my algorithm helps me with advice (for me, my cat, my home…) and it connects me with similar people. It’s a bittersweet technology, I guess. Anyway, without it, Loops might not be a solid alternative.
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