• @Deestan
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    174 hours ago

    Saying “murder” about a military participant in an ongoing invasion reeks of propaganda, not reliable news coverage.

    • @[email protected]
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      Was he killed in combat? Was he killed by a member of the armed forces? Was he on active duty?

      I think in his case it is not so clear to deem him a combatant and legitimate target by the laws around warfare.

      His assassination is kind of similar to the attack on the Pentagon in 09/11. That is the part attacking US army personnel in the building, not the abducting and murdering civilians in a plane part.

      He is a high ranking paper pusher at home, rather than an armed or at least deployed fighter. The attack was not carried out by regular armed forces, but by intelligence or intelligence affiliated partisan/terrorist (depending on point of view) groups.

      In a similar question one would have to ask, if the assassination of JF Kennedy wasn’t a murder then, since Kennedy was the leader of an invading army in Vietnam.

      • @chonglibloodsport
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        29 minutes ago

        The laws of war are way more permissive than you think. All military officers are lawful targets. Even civilians working for the “war machine” are lawful targets. Munitions manufacturing plants, for example, tend to be full of civilian employees. They are lawful targets because destroying the enemy’s ability to conduct war is a lawful objective of military necessity.

      • @FelixCress
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        347 minutes ago

        Are you clinically insane or just a Russian troll?

        This guy was a war criminal, responsible for use of chemical weapons. He was also an active duty soldier killed during the war by enemy combatants, in an operation directed by military intelligence.

        It was definitely a legitimate killing, not a “murder” - if anything I would call it a pest control.

        • @[email protected]
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          Can you link to a source for your respective claims?

          I am not unhappy, that he is gone, but i am also not unhappy about other people being gone, where legally it is considered a murder.

          The allegations that he was a war criminal, which probably is true, doesn’t justify killing him without a conviction, albeit afaik the ICC does not hand out death sentences.

          Are generals sitting at home active duty soldiers? I don’t know, but again this means, that any killing of any head of state that is also considered commander in chief is legal, if their country is involved in an invasion or illegal occupation. So assassinating US presidents would be perfectly legal by this logic like it would be to assassinate Putin.

          Military intelligence is not regular armed forces and i strongly doubt that Ukraine will be providing detailed evidence who committed the killing, so it is well possible that they used a third party.

          That you refer to humans as “pest” does indicate though, that you have a strong disregard for basic human rights. It is a language that fits the Russian invaders and other war criminals, who rely on dehumanization to further their crimes.

          Murder is a legal category. It does not matter how much you or i think it is morally justifiable. Devalueing humans as “pest” however is always a strong indication, that someone has no interest in rule of law.

  • @3minutespast
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    114 hours ago

    Hang on a minute. Is this the media endorsing the celebration of murder? Also if this was in pursuit of political change then are they also celebrating terrorism?

  • Weirdmusic
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    37 hours ago

    Ah, of course, that icon of non partisan high brow news and information the World Socialist Web Site

    • XIIIesq
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      Do you disagree with the article or just the source?

        • XIIIesq
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          35 hours ago

          The article seems factual and unbiased as far as possible can tell.

          • @FelixCress
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            23 hours ago

            What about the title? Since when killing a soldier during war is a murder?