• Lifted_lowered
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    Nobody is trying to make you eat bugs lmao keep this right wing bullshit away

    • @schema
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      81 year ago

      If you’d take their strawmen away, they wouldn’t have any arguments left.

    • Aloso
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      71 year ago

      It is so frustrating when a conspiracy narrative is mixed with valid criticism, which ultimately only taints the criticism by association with the “conspiracy.”

      • paraphrand
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        It’s almost a conspiracy conspiracy.

      • Lifted_lowered
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        11 year ago

        It’s actually a literal COINTELPRO tactic lol

  • @TheIvoryTower
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    I’m happy to eat bugs. Lobsters are basically bugs.

    Don’t conflate the ecologically sustainable practice of bug-eating with American fascist secret service bullshit.

    • @whenigrowup356
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      241 year ago

      “here’s a rational sounding thing to be concerned about, also have you heard of adrenochrome?”

    • @wreckage
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      211 year ago

      Lobsters are basically bugs

      I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I find it disgusting to eat animals like shrimp or lobster because they look too similar to insects to me.

    • @flucksy_bango
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      31 year ago

      Fun fact: pill bugs are terrestrial crustaceans. They even have gills.

      • @Texas_Hangover
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        31 year ago

        That’s all fine and well, but how many tens of thousands of pill bugs am I going to have to shell to make a decent snack?

        • @brimnac
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          Do you count the grains of rice or amount of noodles it currently takes?

          If not then, why now?

  • @Gradually_Adjusting
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    Where did the bug eating talk start? I’ve not been offered any bugs since those grasshopper candies from Archie McPhee when I was a kid. Is it another dog whistle thing?

    • DreamerOfImprobableDreams
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      It’s a far right conspiracy theory, that OP’s trying to tie to legit criticism of the CIA’s atrocities despite having nothing to do with each other-- all in order to try to hide the fact that it’s literally part of the Great Replacement conspiracy.

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        I love those. Another good one is listing:

        • Vietnam
        • Afghanistan
        • Iraq
        • Ukraine

        And saying something ironically, like “this time it will be different.”

        They are purposefully hiding one tiny bit of detail thought, that Ukrainian war was started and is being fought by Russia not the US.

        • @rDrDr
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          To be fair, the Russians also fought in Afghanistan and Vietnam.

          But ya, Afghanistan is a good analogy of the US CIA arming local militias and ultimately defeating the Russians in a long drawn out war of attrition. Thankfully there were no long term consequences to the US.

          • @MasterBlaster
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            Perhaps you are being sarcastic, and I can’t identify it. Perhaps what I think is common knowledge is not so common: Osama bin Laden was one of the people the CIA trained in the 80s.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’ve seen some scientists talk about it, but not as a “mwahahaha, we’re going to force these people to eat bugs!” kinda deal like some people seem to imply, but more just as a “this is more efficient for growing protein than traditional livestock, so there would be environmental benefits if we can persuade people to switch to it” sorta deal.

      Frankly I feel like a lot of the discussion is kinda silly, advocating that there would be benefits if people try to replace some of their meat intake with insect protein is not the same thing as forcing people to eat bugs. The intention behind advocating that is not malicious, they don’t mean just any old bugs but generally farm raised ones, and besides, people already eat bugs anyway. Plenty of cultures throughout the world have dishes involving them in various ways, and beyond that, even in the western countries that a lot of this discussion happens in to my knowledge, people eat very bug-like creatures all the time as long as those creatures live underwater. Shrimp for instance.

      • @Feirdro
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        91 year ago

        For it to make sense, You have to begin with the premise that ecology is a lie created by scientists to make money. 

    • takeda
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      EU approved few insects for consumption as a novelty food and will need to pass defined standards and inspections.

      But conservatives, even in US used that as an argument that they will make us feed bugs.

      • @Mirshe
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        There’s also been research into using insect protein as a meat substitute that’s a lot less “weighty” than plant protein. Insects, pound for pound, require a lot less land, a lot less feed, and there’s been some success in recombining them into other forms of meat, like Beyond Meat has been doing for plant proteins.

    • @Duder167
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      81 year ago

      Someone watched Snowpiercer and went nuts

    • @[email protected]
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      for me it’s been since expo 2000 and I would be actually interested.
      Crispy high protein snacks with a low ecological foot print? shut up and take my money!

    • @Texas_Hangover
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      We had lollipops with scorpions and tequila worms in them lol

      • @[email protected]
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        Most people don’t even know his name. But yeah, 2030 is approaching fast, gotta get the world ready for fascism and servitude.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m gonna lob you a softball. Don’t miss it. Both parties in the US suck, but one is openly courting fascists. Which is it?

          • @Gradually_Adjusting
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            31 year ago

            Aaaa haha holy shit I’m stealing this conversational gambit he so fumbled it

          • @[email protected]
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            I don’t care about politics at all. You tell me. If I wanted to argue with people online, I would probably love politics though.

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    Nobody is forcing anybody to eat bugs. That’s bullshit.

  • @captainlezbian
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    If you’re railing against being made to eat bugs yeah you’re a conspiracy theorist. They’re a perfectly fine meat replacement, though I’ll stick with beans like I think most people will want to

      • ShooBoo
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        Sanity is not playing in to mainstream discourse anymore. The loonies are out and have been empowered. Best we can do is try to get them back on their meds and professional help.

    • ShooBoo
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      71 year ago

      We would all be just a little better off as a whole if we ate some beans instead of a steak more often than not.

      • @captainlezbian
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        Yeah that’s why I’ve not eaten land meat for over a year (I occasionally indulge in sustainable fish). I think one major barrier to people is they don’t get how fucking cheap and lazy you can be with meatless meals. And it’s not like I don’t miss meat but physically I’m in great shape, I’m healthy, I eat lazily, and my food is very good. Not much cooking is easier than throwing a can of beans into some water with taco seasoning, reducing it, and slapping it in a tortilla with your toppings of choice.

        • ShooBoo
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          Well, this whole global warming thing seems to be moving a little faster than expected. If it keeps going on like this, Most of our food sources in the ocean will die off pretty quick. It is all connected. The reality is we either stop what we are doing and the whole world make a concentrated effort to stop/reverse this or we are all doomed. And I don’t see ANYONE willing to stop what we are doing… at all.

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    I ser by some of the comments here that the some of the reddit trolls found Lemmy.

    That was too quick for my comfort.

    Insects as food, while something that is being encouraged, is not a conspiracy. If we continue to decimate our planet, it might become necessary to survive, though .

    • @Feirdro
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      I mean, I’d find it fast too if it was my well-paid job.

      • @MasterBlaster
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        91 year ago

        Yeah, professional disinformation disseminators are relentless. A takedown of certain nationstates will be required to stop them.

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          yes, and I’m sure we’ll have time to do that when our food supply chain starts to collapse in the next two years. /s

          Edit: sarcasm translation—when the earth goes up in flames in a few years, we won’t have resources to enforce the Pax Americana anymore.

    • @SocializedHermit
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      Don’t worry, we don’t have long enough left to institute an insect food delivery system of any note. Pretty soon the bugs will be eating us.

      • @Feirdro
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        You’re so pessimistic. most of the remainder of humanity will be agrarian communities again within 50 years. I think it will take longer for the ocean to die. So we likely have a whole hundred years left!

        • @SocializedHermit
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          You’re unrealistically optimistic. The earth will cook us off the face of the planet along with 90% of species. It’s starting now and will take a few years to really get moving.

    • @hemko
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      I’m not gonna click that link but who in their right mind connects refusal of eating bugs with racism?

      • @chuckleslord
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        Those who know that it’s a fairly common thing to eat outside of Europe or the former colonies.

        • @hemko
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          That doesn’t make it racist. Me not liking sushi doesn’t make me a racist? That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard for some time

          • @chuckleslord
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            That’s not… The idea that you’d be forced to is the thing that’s racist, not not liking the idea of eating bugs. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.

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              Then there’s probably some very strange context I don’t know if i want to know haha

  • OhStopYellingAtMe
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    151 year ago

    Just because the CIA does bad things doesn’t mean every bad thing is the fault of the CIA.

    • @captainlezbian
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      Yeah if you’re dosed with LSD or your democratically elected left wing government gets couped, check if the cia did it. If a bunch of capitalists are trying to figure out how to get people to eat more sustainable protein and think bugs are the answer, idk doesn’t sound very cia. Not enough drugs or anti communism

      • ShooBoo
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        The future of humanity is going to be eating bugs. We are doing nothing about the climate and still haven’t figure out yet that our food sources are the first things that will go. Roaches will probably still be running around and you can bet your ass we will try to eat them. And we will like it.

    • @ChickenLadyLovesLife
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      My brother uses the history of the CIA to justify his support of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. If that doesn’t really make any sense to you, it doesn’t to me either.

    • ShooBoo
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      It is always fun for people to make up stuff about things they know nothing about.

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    They saw the movie Snowpiercer and now the future of humanity is eating bugs. And it very well could be. People have been eating bugs since, forever. Roaches will probably be around after many food sources are gone and we will eat them. You can bet on it.

    Many cultures eat bugs for protein. The fact that this all becomes some kind of conspiracy thing just shows how stupid and gullible people have become.

  • @pizzazz
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    101 year ago

    Are the people making you deppthroat bugs in the room with us right now?

  • @djmarcone
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    It makes sense when you find out that key mainstream media people ARE from the CIA.

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    I mean we still don’t even know the full extent of what they did through the previous century. There are a couple of very noteworthy acknowledged coup or assassination attempts (and successes), but how many others are there? You’ll still often get labelled a conspiracy theorist for talking about some of the other cases.

    I don’t know how many potential examples there are, but my standout example is Australia. Australia’s 1975 constitutional crisis was set off by a Governor General who had been a member of a secretly-CIA-funded organisation, and the US had just recently sent someone known as “the coupmaster” (for his involvement in other coups) to Australia as their ambassador. A CIA contractor of the time says that the GG had been described within the CIA as “our man”. And there was motive, in the form of the relatively leftist nature of the Australian Government at the time, and their threats to shut down the Joint Defence Facility at Pine Gap, a jointly-operated CIA/ASIO spy centre. Australian politics has heaved towards the neoliberal in the time since the alleged coup.

    But it has never been formally acknowledged, and it’s still only based on circumstantial evidence. Depending on who you’re talking to, professing to believe there was CIA involvement will get you labelled a conspiracy theorist. I suspect there are probably other countries with similar stories.

  • Vegaprime
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    Spelled “wealthy people” wrong.

  • @[email protected]
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    “The CIA did some shit in the 80s, so it’s totally legit to claim vaccines make your dick fall off”