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I mean, obviously, right?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the historians will read the entirety of the internet and come to the same conclusion about people today.
If you don’t think so, suck my dick.
Only if the fellater was a young non Roman slave or prostitute. Otherwise it was gay as hell and socially frowned upon.
It was basically a form of pederasty.
Much broader than that. Having sex with a Roman youth was extremely frowned upon, but slaves, non-Romans, and Roman infames were all considered acceptable partners. Even having sex with a Roman citizen was not considered wrong for the man doing the dominating, but was considered extremely emasculating for the citizen being topped. Age was not so much a matter of censure as taste; the Romans preferred younger men (and yes, teen boys), but older men who cultivated a young look were considered just as acceptable.
The ultraconservative dictator Sulla, for example, retired to a Mediterranean island with his lifelong actor boytoy, Metrobius.
Of course.
There is nothing more masculine than gay sex.
It is literally Man²
I think it was former Yankees catcher Thurmon Munson who said “I never feel more like a man, than when I’m wearing a dress.”
(stolen from Mad or Cracked a long time ago)
I wonder if it was one of those things like having a jacked up pickup truck with lights all over it and loud exhaust. Yeah, some consider it “manly”, but most are like “Yeah, no…” but historians picked up the notes where people people liked getting blowjobs and now everyone in ancient Rome liked brojobs as a sign of manliness.
Well, it’s a bit of a thing about Roman sexuality not lining up to modern ideas of sexuality. Essentially, ‘homosexual’ and ‘heterosexual’ were not widely recognized groupings. Instead, sexuality was largely figured on an ‘active’ vs. ‘passive’ dichotomy. Attraction to the same sex (at least for men - women were given less attention in this field) was not considered abnormal, nor was same-sex behavior. But which role you took in same-sex behavior was extremely important.
In addition, it’s widely recognized that Roman men used sexuality as an expression of their own virility and power. While they could go overboard and receive censure (moderation was highly valued amongst the Romans), in general, a Roman man who ‘conquered’ a non-Roman (or very certain Romans - actors were considered acceptable partners) man was thought to be exercising an entirely normal and manly behavior.
In that sense, it’s not so different than sexuality today (or at least, when I was a youth, I guess I’m pretty detached from ‘normal’ social circles anymore), wherein men are generally thought well of for high levels of sexual activity. The difference is that in that modern conception, only women would be praiseworthy for taking as a partner, whereas in the Roman conception, anyone you ‘top’ would be praiseworthy for taking as a partner (and conversely, anyone you ‘bottomed’ for, including a woman, would be emasculating).
We kinda already have modern examples. Pre-internet(wide spread), shows like Beverly Hills, 90210 gave foreigners the impression that everyone in the US acted that way. Yeah, sure, some Americans acted that way, but not many.
Also, in ancient rome, no man would think daily of ancient rome. Making them really not manly
Hey, fellas… Who wants to feel like a real man? My treat. 😏
Damn, looks like I should have taken all those blowjobs back when I was a bouncer. I guess not doing so is why I like wearing my wife’s panties so much
You got offered bjs as a bouncer?
Many a time.
Now, it helps to understand that I bounced at strip clubs and gay bars/clubs.
At the one gay club I worked most at, I got offered head almost every night I worked. Being offered ass was a thing too, if not so often. The leather and cowboy gay bar wasn’t as common because most of the guys that would be into someone with my looks were looking for guys that dressed the style, but I’d get propositioned often enough to make me feel really positive about my looks.
At the strip clubs, it wasn’t as common. That was almost always from the ladies working when it did happen, and it was usually offered to get me to ignore them doing something they weren’t supposed to do, like meth. So, not quite the nice offer the gay and bi guys, or bi women would make at the gay spots. Tbh though, at the gay places, I can count on one hand how many women offered, and I can’t even guess how many gents.
But, there were a few of the ladies at the strip clubs that offered because I did my job and kept them safe. Which was nice of them, and I always appreciated the offer, but it would have been unethical, so even if I didn’t have a rule about not getting involved at work, I’d have turned it down because of the reasoning. Why would I want my dick sucked just for doing my job? It just seemed so skeevy to me. Not that I wasn’t tempted. And gods know I damn near accepted a few times, but I would have regretted it.
But it was a really nice thing to experience, especially with the guys. I’m hetero, but it still felt nice back then to have really cute dudes interested. I eventually got to the point that my sense of self worth wasn’t tied to other’s approval of my appearance, but at the time it still mattered to me that I could interest attractive people.
There was this one kid, just barely old enough to get in the door, that offered every time I was working. Which, I say kid, but at that point, I was only two years older than him. But he always seemed younger, even though I’d seen his ID plenty of times. He would call me big man, and say I ought to go home with him when the night was over. “Hey, big man, you gonna finally come home with me? You ain’t gotta fuck me, I’ll cut off the lights and go down on you.” It started off serious, he was into bears, but it turned into a running joke between us. Really nice guy, ended up married to a guy he met at that club, one of the drag performers.
Thank you for sharing a slice of your life kind stranger. You seem really nice, I’d give you a bj too but would never have the nerve to offer it to the bouncer of a place I want to frequent 😅 I’m sure not all of them would take it that kindly.
I like wearing your wife’s panties too.
I’ll let her know you enjoyed them
What
What
“Frater! Tam virilis es ut mentula magna sugere velim.”
“Frater!!”
More like Pater, amirite
Adding more men to the situation increases the amount of masculinity.
Nothing manlier than have extra bits of men inside you.
We need this logic to make a return. Let me make you feel manly. Let me make you feel powerful.
Normalize brojobs
Choo choo!
The greeks had similar filosofies
And to give?
Well, THAT’S a different story…
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
