More than “mildly infuriating”, this is deeply depressing.

(And seeing TikTok two times there don’t make things better…)

  • Possibly linux
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    Venezuela is one of those countries that just constantly seems to be in a bad state. I can’t imagine living under a government that disrespects its people.

    As it turns out unalienable rights are totally alienable

    • @[email protected]
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      For a colonial power, Spain was a real douchebag. The effects of that douchebaggery seem to have real staying power.

  • @RagingSnarkasm
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    Same as Florida… but for different reasons.

    • NONEOP
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      Oh yeah, I know why lol

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      Yeah, but the other two… (And fucking TikTok there twice! TWICE!)

      • Possibly linux
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        None of those apps are the official Ticktok app.

        Honestly I would try to get most of your apps from F-droid. F-droid only has free and open source software which means it is typically much less sketchy.

        • NONEOP
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          1. Yes, they are official TikToks apps
          2. I quit using Playstore apps a long time ago, F-Droid is my main source of apps. I just went to the list of successes of the Playstore to see if loops, the Fediverse TikTok alternative that just dropped, was on the list.
  • @[email protected]
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    I wonder if people know why they are downloading and using a VPN. Especially when you’re talking about the more sketchy ones.

    • Fushuan [he/him]
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      To avoid region locking. Anything else regarding security is just bogus talk they trying sell you.

    • Possibly linux
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      29 hours ago

      Considering that there is a ton of censorship there I think they definitely know why.

    • NONEOP
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      Superficially, maybe. But not in depth, like knowing what a VPN actually does and such.

      • @[email protected]
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        I wonder how much of that ‘education’ is from ads and influencers constantly pushing VPNs. LOL

        • NONEOP
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          Well, you know, no one hears about VPNs in school, so…

  • hendrik
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    Is that because of the political situation? Like repression, internet censorship… Or an unrelated trend?

    • NONEOP
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      512 hours ago

      Yeah, is political. We can enter twitter (not that I care) and other sites.

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        Just read the government is currently also on a VPN banning spree. I guess that list is going to change frequently now, if people continue with watching Youtube, Instagram and Twitter.

        My top apps are all shopping apps, discount apps, WhatsApp, ChatGPT, TEMU, video streaming and TikTok is there, too. VPN comes further down along with dating apps and then it gets quite random. Guess in Germany our biggest worry is to save some money when grocery shopping…

        • NONEOP
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          You are the third person from a different third country to mention Temu. What on earth is so good about Temu? Legit question 😭

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            Temu has a pretty sketchy history and some how manages to be so much worse than Amazon.

            • NONEOP
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              Then why is so famous around the globe? 😭

              • hendrik
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                Because people like cheap stuff. Need a phone case? Harry Potter merchandise knockoffs, socks, a brush for your arts project? TEMU has that for $0.61, delivered to your door.

                And as far as I know it’s sponsored by the Chinese government. They chip in with forced labor camps. And they also invested massively in advertising and making it a thing.

                I wouldn’t buy from them. As far as I know the app is also spying on the users etc. But yeah, enough people seem to buy stuff there. I suppose it’s cheap and convenient and people don’t care. It’s kind of depressing. I agree.

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                  Isn’t Alibaba the same shit?

      • Possibly linux
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        Me and many others all run the Snowflake browser extension so that you can still bypass censorship with Tor. With Snowflakes it is impossible to block Tor without blocking the public internet.

        Also Briar messager can be used for communication in the event of internet black outs.

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          Well, you see, is kinda hard to explain to someone that oy use Facebook and TikTok what Tor even is, so…

  • @quixotic120
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    Isn’t tiktok free? Why would you need a lite version. Is it for old phones that can’t run much?

    • NONEOP
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      Yes, is for old phones and such. A mutual told me the main app is bad optimized, and a lot of smartphone here are very VERY old. Mine have like 5 years or so, I think that’s like 5 decades in more “develop” countries.

      Third-world shenanigans, you know.

    • L3ft_F13ld!
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      If it’s anything like Facebook lite, it’s literally a wrapper for the website. Not even a proper app. Usually a worse experience than using a real browser, but the main apps are usually so bad that people with older phones put up with the lite “apps”.

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    110 hours ago

    May i ask how is the censorship in venezuela?

    • NONEOP
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      Is not north Korea nor China, I can assure you that.

      • fxomt
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        110 hours ago

        So it’s not too bad? with how corrupt venezuela is, you’d think they would censor a lot of things. That’s how it works in most corrupt countries including mine at least.

        • NONEOP
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          It is very weird. The normal thing here is to throw shit at the government, at least at street level. I have heard that in social networks they are much tougher, I just have not experienced it because I no longer use the Mainstream social networks. There are blockades and restrictions, but they are punctual rather than general.

          It seems to me they know that if they were to go full North Korea or China, it would be counterproductive for them, since people are already fed up. China is restrictive, but at least it is prosperous in its own way; and North Korea has decades of propaganda educating its population. Here there is neither.

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            That’s very admirable of you guys. Unfortunately we in other third world countries are completely submissive, and will allow ourselves to be pushed around. I mean, we are pretty prosperous in KSA too, but it’s not worth living like a slave imo.

            I don’t know about state violence in venezuela, but i’ll assume it’s like ours/other countries. So stay safe.

        • NONEOP
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          No. To be frank, it is a quick and superficial comparison trying to take as a reference countries with a “similar” ideological alignment to Venezuela.

          Although that too is questionable, because, from what I have researched, Maduro’s government is only “socialist” in name.