The last line of, “We need to get revenge on the nerds” is her embodying the exact same cringe she talks about.
Many valid points within to be sure, but elon and zuckerberg aren’t “nerds” they are preppy nepo baby wannabe “cool guy” fucks. She’s tone deaf to not even see that the backlash from actual gamers against elon that she mentions is the point - those are the actual nerds. The ones who scoff at the obviously amateurish way elon tries to use maps in his live stream. That’s a nerd, a nerd is actually competent/proficient at something. elon and mark’s parents did horrible things with their own lives to gather the wealth that then allowed elon and mark to have “jobs” as professional “decision makers” for circles of sycophants - people that just that bring them yes or no questions through fancy PowerPoint presentations built to entertain them during fancy lunches - they don’t actually do anything well.
Nerds are fine. They have their focus in life and they live that without regret or apology. These fucks aren’t nerds. They are uncomfortable in their skin, they lack real value or meaningful relationships and they ooze that defeat and desperation.
Again, worthwhile premise, but this writer fucking sucks. She lousy sounds like the superficial idiot in the 80’s movie who hates anything outside of her personal taste. She’s opportunistically just using this moment to express that existing prejudice. But again, with full clarity, the headline is correct, she just falls on her face at the dismount.
This being a weekly columnist in The Guardian, a newspaper whose journalists are almost all upper middle class people who went to very expensive private schools (curiously callled “Public Schools” in the UK because theoretically anybody can send their children to one, if they can afford it) as are the editors and the board - so they’re almost all from roughly the top 11% of the UK population wealthwise - I expect that her real problem with these present day overlords is that they’re neither posh nor English.
If they had the kind of “proper” manners, soft discourse, cultivated look of detachment and posh dress sense that are taught at the “right” schools, they would be alright.
You don’t see this kind of critique there against posh English super-rich (especially not “old money”), even though they’re just as sociopath as Elon and Zuckerberg.
I expect that her real problem with these present day overlords is that they’re neither posh nor English.
If they had the kind of “proper” manners, soft discourse, cultivated look of detachment and posh dress sense that are taught at the “right” schools, they would be alright.
This is pure fiction. It sounds like an american projecting an accurate understanding of the NYT onto the guardian without having read it.
Since I’m an European, lived as an immigrant in the UK for over a decade and was a regular reader of The Guardian for most of that time and even for some time afterwards, your ad hominem missed the target by a huge distance.
Your post says a lot more about you given that you’ve jumped to such a conclusion about me from what you read and chose an ad hominem as “counter-argument” than it says about me.
The Guardian definitely hates the Tories though so this doesn’t hold up.
They criticise posh politicians, what they seldom, if at all, criticise are their puppet-masters.
And don’t get me started on the shameless subservience they show to the Royals, who last I checked were the richest family in the country.
If it’s English old wealth The Guardian are pretty much silent about it.
My friend youre not far off but not speak so confidently if you don’t know Britian. The richest family isn’t the monarchy, they aren’t top three. And the royalty as much as I personally hate them, is still the monarchy, so they aren’t bashed too much on mainstream media. That’s more tabloid kinds of news
I’ve lived in Britain for over a decade, so maybe your own confident judgment of my lack of familiarity with the place is a little off, unless you think a decade there, speaking the language, following the local press, meeting people at all social levels in various contexts and even being a member of one of the political parties there, is not enough to “know Britain”.
I just don’t keep up with Most Rich List of the country, not even when I lived there much less now that I don’t so don’t really know the exact order at the top right now. Further the wealth of the Royals is subject to much controversy since how much it is depends on things like whether the Crown Estates are considered part of it or not, since the income on those goes to the Treasury but it then gives them part of that money (so they get almost £100 million per year).
Last I checked (when the Queen was still alive) the Royal Family where personally filthy rich AND had exclusive use of very expensive properties owned by the State AND even got a couple of millions every year as a stippend.
Compared with, for example the Dutch Royal Familiy (a country were I also lived for almost as long as Britain), it was like night and day.
Also if you need more examples of how Wealth in Britain is linked to the Monarchy, look up just how wealthy the Duke Of Westminster is (mainly due to how much of London he owns). You can also go down the list of hereditary peers in the House of Lords and check their wealth.
I mean, one needs to very purposefully and very strongly be closing their eyes to not see how a large part of the wealth in Britain is in one way or another in the hands of people linked to the Monarchy (again, a situation which is a veritable night and day contrast with The Netherlands and their Monarchy).
I don’t like where you’re going with this, but I agree with the core issue of ‘paper media’ being kinda pretentious and self-indulgent. They’re in their own reality bubble, and the contrast with (for example) how humble some of the best journalists on YouTube or newer upstartes are is quite stark.
Well, I try to make it clear I’m not defending Musk or Zuckerberg.
I just generally think judging people on their style or lack or it is the simpletion young-teen take on people and that it’s on their actions (which in the case of these two are pretty damning) that people should be judged on.
The Guardian, being a product of the Society it is in and the quite narrow slice of that Society it tends to represent (possibly because they’re very much a bubble were people from a narrow range of origins in that Society almost invariably select their peers to come work with them), ends up doing the whole judging on image and words and putting it above judging on action often, probably because the upper classes in England are very much all about presentation first and foremost (the English Gentleman stereotype is all about presentation and not at all about taking others in consideration when chosing what one does or doesn’t do) to a level that in most other Societies would be seen as fake and hypocrite.
Its kinda rich hearing the English of all ppl complaining about burning the world down. Probably pissed their copyright on it expired
In movies and games they always make them seem super cool and charismatic. Not taking shit from anyone no matter what. In real life it’s just a bunch of socially inept man babies talking about how manly they are as they lick the balls of whomever is in charge.
And they’re usually bald with a goatee. This dipshit looks like a dipshit. Like he could play Mr Universe in Serenity, maybe, and someone who would probably marry a bot, but not a supervillain.
This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a fart.
The ruling class has always been like this. They were just able to hide it better before social media.
Point of order: They’re not nerds. Nerds do not do the shit that these people do. I am a proud nerd myself, and I would rather stab myself in the dick than spend any time whatsoever around any of these broligarch dweebs.
Idk I’m a nerd but so are they. These are the nerdy men that nerdy women have been warning about. Musk is a 4chan troll, and if he didn’t have money he’d be posting about how girls don’t want nerdy nice guys. Zuck would be a misogynistic nerdbro programmer romeaboo. And like I’m a classics girl myself, but I’m in the “look at this clusterfuck, everyone’s terrible, I love it” camp.
These are the sort of guys who get into d&d to pick up nerdy chicks and attempt to explain to the Sapphic couple at the table that female homosexuality’s evolutionary purpose is to attract men so they should let him have a threesome. These are the nerds of revenge of the nerds made billionaires.
Peterson is a big voice in men’s rights – well, a small Kermit’s voice in men’s rights – and he’s also an embarrassment.
Annihilated.
Fucking lmao
The first time I read it, I thought she wrote “Kermit’s voice in men’s tights,” and then I re-read it. But then re-read it again how I wanted, and it was back to ‘tights’.
Climate crises keep coming, genocides continue, women keep getting murdered, art is being strangled to death by AI, bigotry is on the rise, social progress is being rolled back … AND these men insist on being cringe?
Everybody wanna be Lex Luthor but nobody goes around doing Lex Luthor shit
Jesse Eisenberg playing Lex as twitchy, cringy sociopath seems almost prophetic now.
I kinda thought so.
I mean, cool people don’t act that way.
Cool and Good aren’t the same thing.
Some of the best people I’ve ever met were pretty low key and definitelly weren’t overly concerned with presenting an appealing image to others.
What’s percieved as coolness usually is just dressing the part and acting the part and in my experience “cool people” are often people who just take the whole maintaining a public persona thing to quite extreme levels, pretty much playing a role as if life was a Theatre play.
I dunno, the cool kids at my school were mean little bitches
The cool kids at my school were actually generally pretty nice. A lot of us nerds had chips on our shoulders, but the reality is that as a weirdo loser, I was picked on by weirdo lovers and the popular kids were nicer to me than I was to them.
I don’t think they were all good people, given our school’s socioeconomic and racial demographics and the fact that it was a catholic school, I strongly suspect that some may have just appalling beliefs on some topics, but even when I ran into one years later she was nice and open minded.
Idk anyone else’s experience and I graduated in the early 10s and I know we were a weird generation in that regard.
Popular =/= cool.
Those were actually cruel kids. Common mistake.
That’s not very cool of them
We thought we were gonna get gene hackman’s or michael rosenbaum luthor, instead we got Syndrome.
Don’t do Syndrome dirty like that, he just wanted a level playing field for everyone
Nah fam. You know what musk did to twitter? that’s syndrome’s backstory. Little shit who tried to shove himself up everyone’s arses then cracked it when told no.
If they were burning the world down in a cool way, maybe I’d be on board. But we’re burning all our future for THIS?!? gestures wildly
The worst part is, they’re not even enjoying it. No one benefits from this, except comparatively
It’s definitely striking how obviously miserable they are. Like I’m terrified of the harm they intend to cause me, and I’m tired and stressed so often, but holy fuck am I happier than they clearly are.
Sure they are, think of the billions spent so they can ride a dick rocket to space and stay there for 5 min!
But wasn’t Elon real-life Ironman? /s
Phony Stark
Tony Stank
(cursed sentence) is an expression that I will invite to live in my head rent-free.
The meek shall inherit etc…
“Who shall? The Greek?”
