Yikes
please unlock [email protected]
i want to keep posting on the real lemmy 196. yall do your thing here if u like, but leave me out of that
Hey so im just a lurker but im really worried about this move:
We all know Meta just allowed all sorts of vile anti lgbt posting on their platform so how do we know .world isn’t going that way?
You said you have a line to the top admin, is that Ruud who wants to federate with Threads, a Meta product that will allow transphobia against community members?
“Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative” - LW admins
Especially concerning since they are forcing communities to allow dissent, just like Meta, so TERFs can just roll up in this community and you have to allow them?
any and all terfs from threads or otherwise will be banned. if threads is added as a federated instance, we will simply add them to our list of probation instances in the rules alongside lemmygrad and hexbear. in addition, the way we run our community does not count as enforcing a narrative. because that rule does not apply to us, we do not have to deal with it.
Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?
Was there any consultation with the community on this decision?
Nope
Why should there have been one?
Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.
All “we” as users have to do is press the subscribe button.
Both asked their communities before moving. As respect and politeness towards their members.
Hey don’t say everything was perfect the way it went down. A heads up would have been nice for sure! But moss and the modteam did not broke any rules (that I’m aware of) by doing it this way, neither on blahaj.zone nor an lemmy.world.
You can see this other example on [email protected]
Okay? Thank you for showing me.
But what are you trying to tell me with this? That other People do something diffrent than others?
[email protected] ended up reopening after it was arbitrary closed to promote another community, without prior consultation, creating dissatisfaction among the users similar to what we are seeing here.
Hopefully this is what will happen here too.
Okay? Thank you for this insight into Lemmy history.
If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.
Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.
Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.
Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.
I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.
If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.
Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!
Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.
The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.
I belive [sic] that only a small percentile of people really care about this.
Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.
Could be!
The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not. It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.” I can’t tell.
If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.
They already have their community, it’s [email protected]
This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.
And again:
Being able to just leave and set up and run a community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!
Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.
Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own!
Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.
There’s a reason [email protected] exists. One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belong to the users.
Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.
When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.
One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belongs to the users.
Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.
You realize you would be the mod if you start a community, right?
wait, why not blahaj? I dont get it, it was well moderated there :(
There should have been more communication or a poll or something, lemmy world is not known for its clean moderation :(
it was well moderated there because of my excellent mod team, all of whom have migrated as well. we are going to continue to moderate on this instance exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.
So back to the question, why not blahaj?
Choosing lemmy.world
In 2025
We have decided to move to a new exciting platform named Reddit
Lemmy.world lmao
Of all the instances you chose .world? Yeah this party is probably dead
I wouldn’t be so sure. give it a few days to settle, then let me know how you’re feeling
My first reaction was “ew” and after reading into the reasons I still don’t agree but I respect it. I’m a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been “ongoing for months”, though I’m mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.
It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.
I didn’t hold a poll, because unlike other changes we’ve made to this community this does not affect our policy nor ethos. while the community is now being hosted on a different instance, we are running it exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.
No rule in title? Believe it or not, straight to ban!
I’ve just read the other Post at blahaj.zone and now I want to give you (and your team) some encouragement!
Lots of People are upset but I’m not one of them. I like 196 for the Vibes and the memes not the Instance. Some People act like the Instance was THE THING why people subscribed. And (at least for me) it was not. It was literally the only Community (I’m aware of) I subscribed to on blahaj.zone.
And I also agree with you that some Moderation decisions were a bit… Questionable.
Keep up the good work and don’t let the other Folks drag you down, there is always grumbling when things change! 🌈
That’s gold ha ha
apparently they were unaware that they’d been appointed, but I couldn’t pass up this opportunity.
I just hope I didn’t do a bad Job and discredited the other mods with my Replies .__.
I just kept writing from my own point of view :o
I hope not lol. Funny though I think the situation is, I did believe you when you said you didn’t know.
btw it looks like your (now disused?) feddit.de account is on the mod team in the LBZ comm. were you maybe a 196 mod in the past and kinda forgot about it when you switched accounts? idk
The whole Feddit.de instance died under some mysterious circumstances.
The owner of the Instance left for a Work trip to South east Asia and never came back. At least he never came back online. Then the instance started to have some technical trouble which we couldn’t fix without the owner. After continued degeneration we moved all communitys to feddit.org. I can’t even log into my feddit.de account anymore because it’s so broken.
Even the domain feddit.de is broken.
And since .world is not really popular over at blahaja.zone I felt like there would be some trouble if I tried to become Mod with my Main Account.
Seems like the mods are looking for any support they can find in this thread
thanks! I agree with a lot of what you said
So why did we move here?
So why did *they move us here? I didn’t see any attempt at community input.
some longstanding issues with how blahaj.zone is run. I’ll elaborate more once the transfer settles down.
So you moved the community to another instance without any kind of community consultation (that I can see) and can’t even tell us why? The lack of transparency is a bit concerning.
the lack of transparency is primarily due to not wanting to burn bridges with anyone. sometimes disagreements should stay private.
You’re trading off burning bridges against demonstrating that people can trust your judgement, which I think is essential if you expect people to migrate and prevent blowing up the community.
Doesn’t world have the single most complained about mod team on Lemmy outside of ml and hexbear?
yes, but our community is backed by the head admin. if we start having problems, I have a direct line to the top.
One of those mods got removed last night
Aw, that’s a shame. I feel like it reduces instance diversity. With that said, I’m sure you have your reasons. I’m certainly not informed on the subject.
while I do agree that it reduces instance diversity, due to the size of our community, many small instances were apprehensive about taking our community on. it is unfortunate that Lemmy.world is so centralized, but when it comes to a community of our size it is to our benefit
hmmm
Why did you migrate?
