• @3aqn5k6ryk
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    51 hour ago

    I dont give a fuck what you want mark. nobody is. what i want is for you to fuck off.

  • Ulrich
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    7 hours ago

    Money? Is it money?

    clicks article

    For Meta, it’s all about the money.

    Shocking.

    • @[email protected]
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      I taught myself programming in the 80s, then worked myself from waitress and line cook to programmer, UXD, and design lead to the point of being in the running for an Apple design award in the 2010s.

      But I cared more than anything about making things FOR people. Making like easier. Making people happy. Making software that was a joy to use.

      Then I got sick with something that’s neither curable nor easily manageable.

      Now I’m destitute and have to choose between medicine and food, and I’m staring down homelessness. (eta I was homeless from age 16-18, and I won’t do that again now, with autoimmune dysautonomia and in my mid-50s, even if the alternative is final.)

      Fuck these idiots who bought their way into nerd status (like Musk) or had one hot idea that took off and didn’t have to do anything after (this fucking guy). Hundreds or thousands of designers and programmers made these companies, and were tossed out like trash so a couple of people can be rock stars, making more per hour than most of us will see in a lifetime.

      Slay the dragons.

      • @chuckleslord
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        22 hours ago

        I mean, didn’t he famously steal the idea?

      • @horse_battery_staple
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        96 hours ago

        We’re trying! You didn’t know Karla when you were there did you? She had the best stories about Spain.

    • manucode
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      797 hours ago

      For Meta, it’s all about the money.

      And avoiding regulation

      • @NOT_RICK
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        367 hours ago

        Well yeah, because following regulations has an impact on the bottom line.

        • Curious Canid
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          106 hours ago

          Well, they have almost always circumvented them instead, but that impacts the bottom line too.

          • @NOT_RICK
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            46 hours ago

            Yup, lawyers are expensive

    • don
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      177 hours ago

      The time it took me to reach this conclusion, after seeing the headline, is measured in quectoseconds.

        • don
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          47 hours ago

          Several thousand is a lot, sure.

  • @[email protected]
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    917 hours ago

    Kinda funny how when mega corps can benefit from the millions upon millions of developer hours that they’re not paying for they’re all for open source. But when the mega corps have to ante up (with massive hardware purchases out of reach of any of said developers) they’re suddenly less excited about sharing their work.

    • @[email protected]
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      144 hours ago

      I’ve been begging my company to commit to 1% of our revenue toward open source software we use.

      It would be life changing for many of these devs.

  • fuzzy_feeling
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    357 hours ago

    Meta’s Llama models also impose licensing restrictions on its users. For example, if you have an extremely successful AI program that uses Llama code, you’ll have to pay Meta to use it. That’s not open source. Period.

    open source != no license restrictions

    According to Meta, “Existing open source definitions for software do not encompass the complexities of today’s rapidly advancing AI models. We are committed to keep working with the industry on new definitions to serve everyone safely and responsibly within the AI community.”

    i think, he’s got a point, tho

    is ai open source, when the trainig data isn’t?
    as i understand, right now: yes, it’s enough, that the code is open source. and i think that’s a big problem

    i’m not deep into ai, so correct me if i’m wrong.

    • TimeSquirrel
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      I don’t think any of our classical open licenses from the 80s and 90s were ever created with AI in mind. They are inadequate. An update or new one is needed.

      Stallman, spit out the toe cheese and get to work.

  • @Theoriginalthon
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    267 hours ago

    I think the licence type he is looking for is shareware

  • Kompressor
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    147 hours ago

    Desperately trying tap in to the general trust/safety feel that open source software typically has. Trying to muddy the waters because they’ve proven they cannot be trusted whatsoever

    • @kava
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      when the data used to train the AI is copyrighted, how do you make it open source? it’s a valid question.

      one thing is the model or the code that trains the AI. the other thing is the data that produces the weights which determines how the model predicts

      of course, the obligatory fuck meta and the zuck and all that but there is a legal conundrum here we need to address that don’t fit into our current IP legal framework

      my preferred solution is just to eliminate IP entirely

      • @jacksilver
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        I mean, you can have open source weights, training data, and code/model architecture. If you’ve done all three it’s an open model, otherwise you state open “component”. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

  • paraphrand
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    35 hours ago

    If people could stop redefining words, that would go a long way to fixing our current strife.

    Not a total solution, but it would clarify the discussion. I loathe people who redefine and weaponize words.

  • @dilroopgill
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    67 hours ago

    No open source license type where corporations still have to pay?