• @DarkFuture
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    Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

    Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

    Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?

  • @[email protected]
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    233 hours ago

    This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.

  • @mRbLUE
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    Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)

  • @cmhe
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    Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

    The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:

    https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

    So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

    Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

    So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD

  • @[email protected]
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    32 hours ago

    Genuinely curious… How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn’t agreed upon Worldwide?

    Google Maps view of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica

  • fmstrat
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    327 hours ago

    Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

    • @moakley
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      74 hours ago

      I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.

        • @moakley
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          21 hour ago

          That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.

          If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.

    • @[email protected]
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      I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.

  • VodkaSolution
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    Also, report an error to google maps:

    It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.

    • @[email protected]
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      Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.

      If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.

      • VodkaSolution
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        22 hours ago

        I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
        Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too

      • @[email protected]
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        23 hours ago

        The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.

        This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.

        • @[email protected]
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          Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.

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            Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.

            Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.

  • mrmule
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    I’m currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

    What a f*cking joke 😂

    Maps.me shows the real name

    As does mappy.cz

  • VodkaSolution
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    87 hours ago

    UNITED STATES OF NORTH MEXICO
    I’m gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump’s Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon’s vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)

  • @[email protected]
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    118 hours ago

    I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.

  • @[email protected]
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    129 hours ago

    Cool.

    In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.

  • @SoftestSapphic
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    Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

    • @DarkFuture
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      Bingo.

      Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.

      We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.

    • @Mrkawfee
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      This is the way.

      • @gedaliyah
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        Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.

    • @[email protected]
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      I love that it’s not google, and the UI is nice, but the lack of realtime traffic info is a real blocker for me

      • @gedaliyah
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        You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.