While the stroad seem realistic, seeing a pedestrian carrying groceries doesn’t seem like americana iconography.
Blocking the road is not a valid form of protest! runs over pedestrian 🤠
Liberals will kick and scream about the fascism of Tianamen without stopping to ask why the Tank Driver stopped and even tried to drive around Tank Man without success.
The idea that an American civilian could survive getting that close to a military vehicle - that this kind of protest wouldn’t be used to justify his murder - is utterly alien to the Western brain.
So much of this image is pregnant with what Americans understand a US police officer would do to an unarmed protester. You’ll never see pictures of what happened next, because it flies in the face of the narrative.
Look up the Bonus Army, one of many protests that were brutally stomped on by the US military and police.
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Where is Tank Man now? I bet he’s a celebrated civil rights icon who freely walks the streets, right? I did see some reporting suggesting he was executed by firing squad but that can’t be right.
I did see some reporting suggesting he was executed by firing squad but that can’t be right.
The unsourced anecdote as a rebuttal to the live video footage is textbook western discourse. Don’t believe your lying eyes. I know a guy who knows a guy who knows the Real Secret Truth.
Nobody knows his identity or whereabouts. Nobody knows what happened to the soldiers who stopped either.
And thats probably intentionally so, to avoid martyrdom if hes dead. Or to protect his life if he’s not.
And that in itself is a very powerful part of the story.
It says Times Square. Manhattan is one of the walkable places in the US where carrying groceries is actually something you can see.
Good point.
the murican cops are all fucking disgusting violent fascist pigs.
Always was like that
Wasnt expecting to see the news dude at the end of . . Wow that was depressing.
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Tank Man survived, but not everyone was as lucky…
Official government announcements shortly after the event put the number who died at around 300
On 19 June, Beijing Party Secretary Li Ximing reported to the Politburo that the government’s confirmed death toll was 241, including 218 civilians (of which 36 were students), 10 PLA soldiers, and 13 People’s Armed Police, along with 7,000 wounded.[233][234] On 30 June, Mayor Chen Xitong said that the number of injured was around 6,000.
(Other estimates are much higher but still. And I don’t think this happened in the actual square, but rather in other places in Beijing)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Death_toll
Nobody denies that hundreds died all over Beijing that day, what’s called into question is using the “Tank Man” image out of context and telling everyone that he was run over. It’s a mythologizing of another country’s tragedy for the purpose of twisting events in the favor of Western interests.
Think about it another way: why is it that the US, BBC, etc readily and repeatedly report on a mythologized version of the events when they know that the truth is closer to what you say?
Good point.
I was just bringing context to the Tank Man/USA cops comparison. I didn’t think anyone was here defending things or spreading false info.
I like the image and messaging. I was thinking of calling them Cybercucks.
Swasticars?
Both. Not all swasticars are Cybercucks, but all Cubercucks are swasticars.
Some folks call them Deploreans.
Cybercuck is a better name for Elon than the truck, but Trump is the cuck in their relationship. Iunno.
Tesla would be screwed the first time they see a new sign. Machine Learning is about learning from the past but if you don’t have seen it before you might be screwed. But humans can actually think,. even stop and Google the new sign.
Not Times Square, should be Lafayette Square.
no that’s just silly
Somehow I knew that this would be controversial here. It’s a very funny meme though
It isn’t that controversial actually, seems pretty unified with only a couple people getting upset.
Idk there seems to be a big fight especially under this reply and more fights and upset around the comments. Maybe we set the bar for controversy differently.
Only a few people are actually pushing back, though. I wouldn’t call that controversy, for such a context that is usually far worse.
Oh I just counted everyone, no matter what side. Just the fact that there’s a fight going on. But it’s not as dramatic as it could’ve been
Another ironic example of Westerners not understanding what tank man was actually doing: stopping the tanks from leaving Tianmanmen Square. He was doing the opposite of an act of defiance against government involvement; he wanted them to be involved. Also, he left the scene unscathed when other civilians came and scurried him away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk
Maybe Western media always show us a cropped version of the tank man photo, with Tianmanmen Square removed, because it doesn’t fit in with their narrative.
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Jesus fucking christ. I watched this shit happen. I watched the uncut footage air. That man was fucking pissed. He kept blocking the tanks while absolutely losing his shit screaming at the tank. Neither of us was there so neither of us knows why or what he was screaming but it was most definitely a clear act of defiance. You cannot in any way say that he was asking them to “go back” and “stay involved”.
Here is the footage.
That’s just a shorter version of the video I posted. And I don’t think the full footage ever aired on TV, because it’s around ten or twenty minutes long, mostly of him on top of the tank having a conversation with the crew.
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We have reached so many levels of irony that I do not know which one the original meme maker was on.
I assume he doesn’t know because almost no Westerners seem to.
Probably but the irony adds a layer of comedy. By the way the video you linked above seems to be broken.
Thanks, fixed.
There’s a lot of misinformation about this event, which was formally acknowledged by the USA fairly recently. He did leave unharmed, I was surprised to hear anybody thought otherwise. However, you are stretching credulity by claiming he was pro-government. Seeing as he was never located, I can at least concede that neither of us know what he was thinking at the time.
That’s a blank link.
Hah, the video must have been taken down last week. I figured it might eventually be.
Here’s another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk
Upon watching the video then reading further, they seem to have left the square to clear nearby streets. Your comment says he wanted them to stay. Therefore you’re saying he wanted them not to continue clearing the area? Or are you saying he wanted them to continue to maintain the square?
He seems to be blocking their exiting the square, so it appears he wanted them to remain in it. I don’t know where the tanks were going. Perhaps back to base, perhaps somewhere else.
Edit to add: Back to base seems most likely, because this was on June 5th, the day after the protests had ended.
I think he was just a weirdo
They cleared the side streets after this. How does blocking equal wanting them to stay? Seems like wanting them to stop.
they seem to have left the square to clear nearby streets
That sounds so strange, how do we expect them to clear entire streets if they can’t even get past a single guy armed with grocery bags?
How does not wanting to run a guy over equal an inability to?
Can you explain the relevance?
The video you linked to says that the footage was spliced together from a 2006 documentary aired by PBS, here’s a summary
The Incident: On June 5, 1989, a day after the Chinese army violently suppressed pro-democracy demonstrations in Tiananmen Square, an unarmed man, later known as “Tank Man,” stood his ground in front of a line of tanks on the Avenue of Eternal Peace.
Iconic Image: Captured by Western journalists, this image became a powerful symbol of defiance and the struggle for freedom worldwide.
Documentary’s Focus: The FRONTLINE documentary, “The Tank Man,” explores the events surrounding the Tiananmen Square protests, the identity of “Tank Man,” and the significance of his act of defiance. Filmmaker’s Investigation:
They were not pro-democracy lmfao they were maoists protesting against SWCC
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Source: ¯_(ツ)_/¯
At least the other comment had the decency to provide sources for their statements
Martial law remained in effect until it was officially lifted on January 11, 1990. They stayed there and kept harassing people. They didnt leave the city, these tanks were not going home and tankman wasn’t trying to keep them there. His source doesn’t even say what he says it says.
You don’t know where they were going any more than I do. All we know is they were leaving the Square, and he was standing to stop them. We don’t know what conversation he had with the person in the tank (that part of the video was clipped out, presumably for brevity, because it goes on for several minutes).
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I will bet anything you never saw images of the ‘peaceful protesters’ burning busses with people in them, lynching cops, etc… And tanks have no home, they are clearly leaving the square tho. Get over it.
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