Can imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.
Solution: stop paying taxes.
Breaking News: trump signs into law 200% sales tax
These people have to live somewhere. Why is nobody killing them?
Americans are brainwashed with an ideology of nonviolence
The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.
And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.
And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.
The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.
The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be
Americans won’t form violent groups because they’re trapped in the mind prison of nonviolence. They think violence is wrong.
There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.
This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment
It’s because it IS wrong. Animals resort to violence when they don’t get their way.
The allied soldiers who killed the nazi soldiers are… doing something wrong?
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Don’t kid yourself, you’re pro-violence if you’re okay with how the system is now.
BULLSHIT
Maybe it’s because we’re not animals. Had half of this country been educated enough to see what was coming- we wouldn’t be in this mess. Violence will only make it worse.
strange though that rich educated billionaires are fine using violence through the state to oppress citizens
Yeah, I forgot how this country became liberated in the first place.
BULLSHIT
IMAGINE GIVING A FUCK ABOUT $36K WHEN YOU MAKE NEARLY $1 MILLION / YR!!!
Imagine not pursuing all your hobbies and instead opressing minorities and waging war all around the world when you make 100 billion a year. First person to say that is elons interest, and that’s valid, can stand in line behind him at the guillotine.
If I had that kind of money, you’d never hear about me again. I’d just stay quiet and fund a whole lot of charities and scholarships.
You would never get that rich in the first place because you aren’t a sociopath.
If everyone collectively stopped paying taxes, this problem gets fixed pretty easily. As it is, I have no plans to pay any more into the Dipshit in Chief fund from this moment forward.
America will get my money when America can show that it can be responsible with it.
This CAN work for a time but eventually they will catch up with you. I know quite a few people that stopped paying, only to get surprised by the IRS years later and owe back taxes, fines and interests. They can make your life hell, put liens on your home, garnish your wages, all kinds of special tortures. If you are serious about this, no joke, I recommend leaving the country and planning on never returning.
But if EVERYONE stopped paying….
Sure, just like if everyone voted Democrat you wouldn’t have this problem. If you manage to convince everyone not to pay taxes, I’ll be extremely impressed.
Don’t worry. It’ll trickle down… eventually… The cash might be a bit red though… /j
I feel like these chuds don’t know the difference between trickle and dangle.
This is dangle down economics, where the less well off are dependent on voluntary charity from the better off.
It’s like Robin Hood, but in reverse…
Dennis Moore?
Hobin Rood or Nibor Dooh?
Hood Robbin’ was right there
Sey Yes
I love basically losing a month of my income when we’re already barely getting by. Fuck this fucking shithead administration to hell with a rusty whisk.
Also you gotta factor in inflation caused by the injection of $4.5 trillion of additional rich guy wealth into the economy. So even a lot of people making over $300k are probably going to be losing out after you factor in inflation caused by others getting more.
The ‘Food Web’ of this civilization and many others on this planet make absolutely no fucking sense its morbidly hilarious.
For 30k, one expected to pay 7500/yr taxes, although usually that was diverted by the employer and not noticed as much (other than the standard “why is my pay 465/wk instead of 576/wk?” question).
This would knock the takehome down by ~$30/wk due to the increased withholding by the employer to cover that 1500.
And when we look at it from our comfy warm homes, it doesn’t seem like a lot. But, I can confirm from when I was working 3 jobs to support a university habit, that $30 was fucking crushing. I think that’s 2 days a week of food, when every penny is bled out of you already.
Wanna bet the GqP is looking at it like $30 is nothing, like they’re just skipping the appetizer at the clubhouse one day a week?
Don’t be silly. 30 is not even on the gop radar. No way they’re skipping an appetizer over it
Why don’t we just charge the homeless infinite tax money to support the government?
Bug report filed.
Closing, will not fix
PEBKAC. Known issue.
I am unironically working on an idea where negative money is a normal feature of an Economy which is needs first. Production based on the requirement to fill those needs. There would be no tax money required to support a government and the negative balance is simply a transparent measurement of the cost of life.
It would eliminate the concept of purchasing power. And i know that sounds insane on premises. Hence i am still working on it. May require more then a few pages.
Anyway don’t direct skepticism to it yet. Just know that your joke has been a real life math Problem in my head for a few days now.
Some may critique you, but I think it’s important to dream. All the best ideas started as dreams.
Your idea is kind of sound, but it really depends on how you implement the “negative” money.
You can just choose not to pay off the public debt. That will, effectively, make you print infinite money, and we all know how much corpos like to use and very much abuse inflation. Your idea’d fall quick.
An alternative is to charge the provider for the service they’re providing, or someone with deep pockets who could. This seems much sounder of a wax to go to me. For example, if someone is building a hotel with 500 rooms, say they have to build an additional 30 apartments meant to house a 4-member family. Or, say you keep the asinine US health insurance system, but for every procedure they charge, they have to make one for free. Who they give it to is chosen by the government. This is effectively a form of “negative” taxation. Shame it’s basically a revive of the feudal-era “Wheat tax”.
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I just love you guys
what if we all just don’t pay taxes
I mean, they’re planning to gut the IRS so who would be able to come after us 🤷♀️
Gutting of the IRS is only going to impact the massive headcount needed to go after tge billionaires. They’ll still have plenty of people for the poor people.
This is what no one gets… they already avoided most rich tax frauds cause it was too expensive to fight them in court… getting poor folk is easy.
This will be in effect next tax season I think. This tax season’s policy is already in place
Way ahead of you.
Well, fuck.
I mean, I agree with this and think it should be spread widely, but probably should be in politics or politicalmemes.
Enshittification is, from the sidebar, “The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits.”
Sorry. There just isn’t a platform for stuff like this big enough on lemmy right now. Tried shoe horning it here but it’s literally at the top of r/all and is good content. From my experience politicalmemes would bite my head off. Politics must be an article.
This has been my experience as well. Many communities have strict posting rules. If you just want to post an infographic, options are extremely limited.
You can never vote in your life and still have to pay taxes. You could be as non-political as you want, you’re still paying taxes. What’s the point of pretending this only affects people who are into politics?
Also surely that’s not correct on the sidebar right? Only online platforms? That’s that’s not what we’re here for. If that’s what it says someone fucked up. That’s obviously not right.
Well, I mean, I remember when Cory Doctorow first created the word, and it’s always meant to me what the sidebar says. It captured specifically why online platforms start out very consumer-friendly to attract users, until the users and businesses are trapped by network effects, and they become the product being sold.
Maybe language changes, maybe it now means just “things getting worse” to some people. But I honestly think that’s a tragedy, because if “enshittification” loses its specific meaning, it loses the power to specifically call attention to this phenomenon.
He might have invented the word but he didn’t invent the phenomenon. People have been aware of capitalism’s eroding effect on the quality of goods and services for a while now. While he may have specifically been talking about online products and services it’s not like it even originated there. The decline of products due to capitalism’s entropy is well established and preceded the decline of online services. I think it’s rather safe to say it’s taken on a meaning for more than just the internet. Certainly that’s what most people use it for I’ve noticed.
That’s also in no way a tragedy. Kind of ironic to be bemoaning a word losing its original specific meaning and then using the word tragedy to describe that.
The specific meaning in the sidebar is explicitly about differentiating it from other generic capitalist decay. It’s specific to online platforms, and in that specificity, is narrowly tailored and more relevant to what we experience in the 2020s.
That’s the beauty of words - you don’t need to reuse the same word for vastly different phenomenon, and by allowing words to have specific meanings, you increase the deftness with which we articulate and discuss the world.
Vastly different? How are they vastly different? It’s the exact same phenomenon with the exact same cause.
And the toothless knuckledraggers who’ll be hit the hardest by this shit will thank the Führer for making America great again.
They will. Because when they lose everything to his policies, he will toss them the scraps of what they once had, and they will see him as their king.
