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Recent coverage of Gaza and the West Bank illustrates that, while corporate media occasionally outright call for expelling Palestinians from their land, more often the way these outlets support ethnic cleansing is by declining to call it ethnic cleansing.
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Y’all ever notice that arguments about how to call something steal oxygen away from what to do about it?
Genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass-murder are just words. Calling it a pumpkin pie won’t bring back one dead child.
Reality is independent from language. Words borrow meaning, they’re not the source of it.
Yeah but by turning people away from the media we also isolate them from groups with similar ideals, forcing them into bubbles/echo-chambers which are easily radicalized to promote violence and insurgency.
Isn’t “ethnic cleansing” itself a euphemism for genocide?
I think “ethnic cleansing” is a subset of genocide.
You are correct. Genocide encompasses ethnic, national, racial, or religious groups.
https://treaties.un.org/doc/publication/unts/volume 78/volume-78-i-1021-english.pdf
Other way round. Genocide is a type of ethnic cleansing.
This. Simply removing people of s certain ethnicity from a region without otherwise hurting them is ethnic cleansing but not genocide. It’s still a crime against humanity, mostly, IMHO, because the “without otherwise hurting them” part rarely if ever happens.
Originally it was. Now, in the aftermath of said ethnic cleansing, it’s like a byword for genocide-lite.
The term kind of has the implication that things will be less dirty and more organised when it’s done.
No, ethnic cleansing does not necessarily imply killing. It is the forced depopulation of an area, which can be by means of deportation, economic pressure, threat of violence, etc. Genocide is the most extreme form of ethnic cleansing.
Genocide also doesn’t imply killing.
I feel like in common use it does. Some formal definitions don’t require it, but then there’s contradicting formal definitions.
No, genocide is explicitly defined as:
the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genocide
-Cide is to kill or killing, and is derived from Middle French, from Latin -cida, from caedere to cut, kill
Yes, and you can destroy a group by means other than killing its members, such as forced sterilization, systematic abuse, or the transfer of children away from the community. It’s the demo that’s being killed, not necessarily its individual members.
You’re incorrect on this one. Abducting “enemy” children and brainwashing them is genocide. Erasing local language from books and signage is genocide. Part of the definition. You can kill an ethnicity by erasing it and not have to kill a single person.
If you want to argue a dictionary then be my guest.
Can we all just agree there is no “good” media? Journalism died for profits
No, there are some great independent outlets that are still doing exceptional journalism. Many of the new outlets were founded by reporters who came from mainstream or traditional media but were either laid off or quit because of the profit-above-all-else mindset. As citizens and news consumers this means we have to be pickier and more discerning when it comes to what we read, because we can’t trust that we’ll get everything we need from just a single newspaper anymore. But if you look around you’ll still find some very high quality journalism, it’s just a bit more diffuse than we’re used to.
The article itself claims that 87% of news outlets are avoiding the phrase “ethnic cleansing”. There are those that are calling it for what it is.
If you want an example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/05/un-chief-warns-against-ethnic-cleansing-after-donald-trump-gaza-proposal
“Journalist” is not an ethnicity but they can be cleansed too.
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Real, the genocide started on 1947.
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Can someone AI a concise list of all the papers which refused to tell the truth from the article?
You could just read it and make your own list instead of asking someone else to get AI to do it for them so they can collate a list for you.
