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Summary
JD Vance’s confrontational role in Friday’s Oval Office clash with Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy became a flashpoint for the US-European relationship.
Vance provoked Zelenskyy by accusing him of leading “propaganda tours,” escalating tensions before Trump joined in.
Critics suggest this confrontation was deliberately orchestrated to damage US-Ukraine relations, noting immediate and synchronized Republican messaging afterward.
European officials backed Zelenskyy while expressing concern that the US is siding with Putin. Following the meeting, Trump officials indicated they might cut all military aid to Ukraine, marking a potential collapse of the transatlantic alliance.
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How did the party of this
Turn into this so quickly?
I feel very sorry for the everyday Americans involved in this maga project 2025 racist agenda.
Don’t feel too sorry. About half of us asked for this clown horrer show.
Only 20% of us ASKED for this. Everyone else was outvoted or complicit.
Silence is complicity, yes.
That’s not really the same as asking for it though.
Fair enough
I hate this “emerged” language shit. They’ve been practically screaming what they were going to do at anyone who was willing to listen.
yeah pretty much every headline could simply be:
Trump/Vance/MAGA Does Exactly What They Told Everyone They’d Do
and the subheader line could be: Traditional Democrats/Media shocked that Trump/Vance/Maga did least shocking thing ever.
European officials backed Zelenskyy while expressing concern that the US is siding with Putin. Following the meeting, Trump officials indicated they might cut all military aid to Ukraine, marking a potential collapse of the transatlantic alliance.
I think it would do the global community a lot of good to simply cut the States off from any resources, all trade, and any aid they need from us (like helping put out their damn fires!).
If the rapist in chief thinks his country is the only country that matters, let them experience the next four years in a complete global blackout.
Maybe then this jackass will realize that the States needs the world more than the world needs the States.
Not only that. We should stop honoring american IP (intellectual property). Just pirate all their shit. Disassemble their tanks, hack their cars and tractors. Remove all their software and replace it with open source, Europe backed programs.
Because this will hurt them globally. A crack for a car works in Mexico as it does in Denmark. An open source office suite also helps developing nations, that could then also get rid of MS.
Jailbreak all the Teslas.
cut the States off from any resources, all trade, and any aid they need
This is 100% the reason that putin installed these fascists in the first place.
That doesn’t really change the fact that the damage the US can do under a fascist dictatorships trade wars needs to be minimized. The solution isn’t to continue enriching a hostile nation state.
The only chance America has at this point is national upheaval and likely civil war, otherwise the enemy within will remain and continue pulling the copper from the walls. You can’t magically deprogram 70 million people from extremism and mental illness. The cancer has to be cut out.
I’m just pointing out how effectively putin has engineered a situation that gives him the most room to continue his conquest of eastern europe
americans are still too content to even have a civil war, still have access to youtube, and all the social media.
EU still needs resources from US though. Remember the Russian gas they were so dependent before 2022? It was largely replaced with American gas.
Replace it with Canadian gas that’s currently going to the US.
See, this is why you don’t elect rapist kids into public office. And you don’t sit back and let others elect them into office either.
Safe to assume this is Thiel then? Or the TechBroFuedalists?
Is that the Vance faction?
I’m genuinely asking:
Why does Thiel/techbros want closer ties with Russia and to seemingly break the postwar imperial status quo?
Is there any Republican faction that wants to maintain it? I’m guessing maybe old hands like McConnell?
This seems to be the first big Flashpoint for the neoliberals to actually stand up and push back, via corporate media.
They want kingdoms.
A return to “the good ol’ days” of feudal lords, jus primae noctis, and plebs to work into early graves.
They call them network states.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, there was kinda a “fire sale” of government assets… They just got “sold” (effectively handed) to people who were favoured by the leaders of the time. This was how these Russian oligarchs came to be.
I think this is where the wind is blowing in the USA. Tear apart anything the government does and hand the responsibility for those things as private contracts, and to just hand those contracts to whomever seems like they’d be a good soldier.
Basically, rip all of the copper out of the walls, sell it at 10% market rate to the PayPal mafia, and then let them sell you copper-as-a-service.
I think its already too late for them to push back… They got lured in by market deregulation and if they revolt now, they see their capital in danger (seized, redistributed by force of policy, etc.).
Fascism and neoliberalism can also get along quite well.
It’s simple really - Vance was the point man because Trump wants to be able to throw somebody under the bus if need be.
This checks out. And explains why President musk wasn’t there for this meeting.
That dumbass could break a iron man with a rubber hammer.
