Tougher laws are said to inspire clandestine attacks on the "property and machinery" of the fossil fuel economy.
  • @[email protected]English
    8•4 hours ago

    People in power pretend to forget that protesting is a needlessly polite form of reminding them of our struggles, needs, and injustices.

    So far pretend to teach us how protesting is wrong. How the bigger of the two classes shouldn’t protest due to fear of consequences.

  • @[email protected]English
    33•15 hours ago

    Relevant quote from JFK:

    Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent revolution inevitable

    Probably only a matter of time before there’s a lot of Italian plumbers all over Europe…

    • @NaevermixEnglish
      7•12 hours ago

      Historically speaking, militant environmentalists have been targeting infrastructure, not people. The current mainstream movement is nonviolent to the point of absurdity, whereas their militant counterpart is basically nonexistent. It’s a bit counterintuitive if you think about it; a movement which objects to the very real violence that industry subjects both people and entire ecosystems to is completely nonviolent.

      • @[email protected]English
        6•4 hours ago

        The current mainstream movement is nonviolent to the point of absurdity, whereas their militant counterpart is basically nonexistent

        That’s probably because the politicians in the pockets of the fossil fuel interests made laws declaring it terrorism, with ridiculously long prison sentences.

        Now that they’re doing the same with peaceful protest, though, it’s no wonder that people are reverting to direct action.

        Not much point in going with the least effective option as long as you’re only hurting corporations and the punishment is roughly the same 🤷

  • ddhEnglish
    16•20 hours ago

    Probably where it should’ve started all along.

    Probably won’t see this on Reddit.

  • @BuffaloxEnglish
    0•2 hours ago

    What a moronic headline?! UK is not Europe, and environmental protests are not criminalized in any other European country AFAIK.
    Also there are rules for protests, if you break those, you may be arrested. Disregarding what the protest is about.

    Edit:
    To those that downvote, it’s the same as writing Asia is making something illegal, but it’s really only Thailand.
    Please explain how that’s not moronic?

    PS: There are rules to prevent protests to turn violent, because violent protests are NOT democratic:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

    • @[email protected]English
      5•11 hours ago

      UK is in Europe. They have left the EU but are still in Europe.

      Read the article, it mentions several EU countries where acts of sabotage have been increasing.

      Criminalization does not mean “applying the laws”, or at least that is only one aspect of it. It can also mean creating new laws or even have nothing to do with the actual legal framework. In France for example, the government has taken the nasty habit of publically branding nature activists as terrorists. That is a form of criminalization even if it remains largely symbolical.

      It can also mean that prosecution takes a harder stance or uses a different, harsher legal framework. In France again, vandalism and destruction of private or public property is of course illegal. However the definition of terrorism is rather loose and can also includes acts of sabotage.

      So when nature activists break the law to perform acts of sabotage, the prosecution can choose to decide that it was vandalism and treat it as such, or as terrorism and treat it as such. The latter not only allows harsher punishment, but also gives police and prosecution much larger means and leeway, leveraging legislation that was passed not to fight political activism or sabotage, but as a reaction to a whole other kind of terrorism, you know, the kind that haphazardly murders dozens if not hundreds of citizens.

      Criminalization can also mean allowing or encouraging the police to respond much more violently to peaceful protests, or the authorities trying to suppress various organisations taking isolated acts of sabotage as an excuse.

      Edit: talking about France because that’s what I know best but there is a similar trend in several other Western European countries.

      • @BuffaloxEnglish
        3•9 hours ago

        UK is in Europe.

        Oh REALLY!!! Do you have MORE information everybody know???
        How does that justify writing protests are being made illegal in Europe as if it’s all of Europe???

        It’s a bullshit headline plain and simple.

        It can also mean creating new laws

        No not “also” that’s LITERALLY what it means, that laws are changed to make it illegal, when previously it was not. and that happened in UK under Boris Johnson. There is nothing comparable in other European countries.

    • @[email protected]English
      0•5 hours ago

      environmental protests are not criminalized in any other European country AFAIK… there are rules for protests, if you break those, you may be arrested. Disregarding what the protest is about.

      Real coherent. lol.

    • @AmnesigenicEnglish
      1•11 hours ago

      If you think any protest anywhere ever is about following rules then you have completely missed the point of protest