Nazis are basically never banned from any lemmy instances, except our, for being nazis. I rarily even see nazi shit banned despite reporting it every time, and if they are banned, it’s usually for tone policing reason.
There are an awful lot of pre-scratched nazis floating around right now though.
Here? Nah. I ain’t been here a minute but I find that hard to believe.
They’re talking about that “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” saying.
Now that ive poked around lemmygrad i can indeed see there are a lot of liberals around here recently. Annoying but if 1 in every 10 gets affected by their stay here over time, thats a huge win.
I haven’t seen that phrase. How much does it appear? Is it used by nazi-types? I think I’m missing some critical info.
I’m very anti-nazi, but I haven’t seen anything approaching nazi speech in the couple of months that I’ve been here. I’ve seen right-wing apologists and occasional conspiracy support, but that gets called out and voted down. Am I experiencing a diff Lemmy because I’m not subscribed to specific channels or something?
I mostly just meant that as a reply to KIGV2, as they’d have context for it.
It’s a very common saying in this instance, and in other communist spaces online.
The underlying idea is basically that fascism and liberalism are inherently interlinked. Liberalism creates the conditions for fascism to thrive (uncritical free speech, private property), and fascism protects the basic things Liberalism does (private property etc).
“Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”, “fascism is the military wing of liberalism”, and “social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism” are all quotes meant to communicate that relationship.
You might find this bit ofthis piece interesting/relevant:
Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.
If that’s not your speed, that’s cool. Lemmygrad’s not for everyone, and you should be able to block the communities that are most active here!
Can anyone explain the meme for the poor non-native english speaker?
Thanks :)
Absolutely! The joke is that “freeze peach” sounds kind of like “free speech,” so it’s become a meme to mock the (usually far right) people who claim that freedom of speech should be upheld at all costs, including human decency, and that things like racism, sexism, LGBTQ+ phobia, hell even full-on Nazi propaganda should be unrestricted on the internet.
Oh! I see. Thanks!
Don’t worry as a native English speaker I would have never arrived to freeze peach from that picture.
Same. I was completely lost. Now I know (and knowing is half the battle… said the indoctrinating cartoon I watched as a child).
Cartoon propaganda occasionally worked like a broken clock :-P ( to proactively explain for those that don’t know this one too: broken clocks are right twice a day by dumb luck)
Freeze Peach sounds like Free Speech
Peach-essenced ice water!
You heard it here folks: Nazis make really bad fruit water! Seriously they threw a whole peach in, that’s not going to do anything. You need to cut up or ideally crush the fruit so the juice goes in the water smh.
What do I win?
Being forced to witness how the liberals use it to justify Nazis while rounding up communists
Cool copium bugThat image looks like a Cheezit with tiny marshmallows on it from far away
Free speech
