Fuck all good news, so here’s some opinion. Unionists will dismiss the polling company, but me - an ex-cybernet - dismisses the NI fudge. I’d rather see control of a referendum tied to an election result or Scottish MPs get a vote with which rUK MPs don’t get to overturn. It is interesting that Kezia even comes round to these ideas though, I do wonder given another 5 years where she will be
Na, the same cunts who voted remain are still around unfortunately.
Demographics say perhaps not. Plenty of 65+ in 2014 are long gone, and 16-30 year olds break more like 60/40 to indy (again, according to some opinion polls). Time is on the independence side it seems
Let’s hope so
Is it inevitable? I’ve heard Scotland might not have the economy and demography for a successful independence.
The undercurrent for independance is less ‘freeeeeedom’ and more that westminster is a sinking ship with a series of captains that keep shooting fucking holes in the boat. Scotland would definetaly suffer under independance but the idea is it would suffer less than it will under England in the long run.
That I can see from where I’m standing. If there’s a real independence, I’ll have a decision to make with my family. The only reason we’re not there already is my wife’s afraid of Scottish winters.
It gets a wee bit cold but the last couple have been more wet than anything!
That I can handle, where I’m from it rained so often I had hair on my chin before I was ever dry.
We have a fantastic word in Scots for the weather we get more often than not in the non summer months (roughly 51 weeks of the year): Dreich. It’s when it’s grey, wee bit wet, bit cold. Not terrible just….meh.
I’m down
Heard via propaganda designed to scare people into not voting for independence.
Do you honestly think a developed country of 5.5 million people is just going to crumble and collapse? A country which made damn sure the EU knew it was dragged out against its will and the EU has responded by saying they’d be welcome with open arms.
Edinburgh and Glasgow are both international cultural and financial hubs with the Fringe, many large financial institutions, and more bands and gig venues than you can shake a stick at. Dundee exists. Aberdeen has a fuckton of engineers and universities and they’re skill transitioning from oil to renewables. Aberdeenshire has both Europe’s largest cattle and fish markets, and Inverness is the gateway to Highland tourism and also an agricultural hub.
With the inevitability of climate change marching on we’re also well positioned, with just Loch Ness on its own having more water than all of England and Wales combined and our famously cold climate becoming less so each year. Obviously in the grand scheme of things for humanity climate change is awful but Scotland is probably one of the better places to be during it.
I think it was Real Life Lore, but maybe I’m misremembering. Didn’t mean to get your back up, only chatting.
No surprise there’s propaganda against it. As I clarified elsewhere, if they did decide to go independent I’d probably be talking my wife into moving there ahead of time.
I tried looking that up but all I could find was this private video and a lot of responses calling them out for spouting total bullshit, I’m guessing it was a misinformation video they were forced to remove after a lot of pushback. Doesn’t sound like someone worth listening to.
Good, honestly. He’s a bit of a windbag and generally puts me in a bad mood now that I think of it.
Few things are inevitable. But support doesn’t seem to be dropping even 11 years after the first vote. I’m not certain when the next will be, it took from 79 to 97 to get a second devolution vote. But it looks untenable to me for His Majesty’s Government to deny the Scottish people a vote based on their actual election choices
Yeah, they’ll keep harping on about “once in a generation” as if multiple loads of crap hadn’t hit the fan. Brexit of course being the big one, but Labour following up the Tories with more austerity and generally conservative governance also won’t help.
The upcoming (Scottish) election cycle will probably matter a lot for indy and seeing how Scotland reacts to Labour. The SNP did get hit by a lot of scandals so things might get shaken up a bit. I wonder how many will put another referendum as one of their main points.
The need to unshackle ourselves from brexit britain isn’t going anywhere, I suspect cosying up to Trump isn’t going to help the UK either. Calls to rejoin the EU are only growing louder
Scotland should have that option
The “once in a generation” argument was always bullshit but over time it’s just got more and more ridiculous. If we had an independence referendum today people who were five years old in the last one could now vote. How could any sane person consider that the same generation?
