• @[email protected]
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    372 years ago

    I don’t think that’s particularly bad. Logitech makes reliable input devices. I recall that the US Navy switched to Xbox controllers to control their periscopes on nuclear submarines and saved millions of dollars and found that people understood the controls better.

    • @GreenCrush
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      32 years ago

      The navy uses it for periscopes, and training. Not piloting anything like this. This thing was definitely made as cheap as possible.

      • @ch00f
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        32 years ago

        An off the shelf controller with several backup failsafes (they keep spares on board) is a perfectly reasonable way to do this. In such a cramped space, a hardwired or mounted helm would probably be continuously bumped or tangled.

        Any custom purpose-built wireless device would just introduce more complication than necessary.

    • Madison_rogue
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      12 years ago

      Sure, but they should still have to be vetted by the Defense Logistics Agency. That includes Quality Assurance overview.

    • @MeowyNin
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      12 years ago

      I still use 360 controllers theyre sooo reliable. They made a good choice on that one.

  • @Crow
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    252 years ago

    Imagine having to pilot a submarine with stick drift.

    • LUHG
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      12 years ago

      But i bet they have extended next day warranty. /s

  • @8to32characters
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    232 years ago

    I mean, Logitech makes reliable stuff. But shouldn’t they at lease have a player 2 MadKatz controller in a bin somewhere?

  • @[email protected]
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    152 years ago

    I’ve seen a video of US Navy using an Xbox controller (arguably for experimental weapon iirc but still). If it just works why overengineer it? I would be more concerned about that hull (scuttlebutt says it was just carbon over titanium frame, not titanium hull overlayed with carbon). However I guess we will have to wait until they find the boat to know the reason for failure.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      Exactly. Making the controls yourself isn’t necessarily better, as long as the rudders and engines are engineered properly. Some seperate (emergency) control might be a good idea, in case the Bluetooth fails. Just to get the submarine back to the surface.

      The submarine is a one-off experimental one that isn’t certified, hasn’t been used a lot and dives deeper than almost any other submarine. That’s enough alarm bells for me. Whatever they use to control the vessel is irrelevant to me.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        They also still have the old interface system and it was chosen because new personnel found it intuitive. Not because it was the cheapest option.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    I had a Logitech F310 which started malfunctioning, where the left stick’s signal was always halfway to the left. Logitech’s quality isn’t what it used to be. I can imagine something like this happening on the submarine. Question is whether they had a replacement and if they even recognized that the gamepad was malfunctioning.

    Fun fact: The Logitech Extreme 3D-stick is used in many professional systems, but those are reliable.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      I feel like that’s the different between buying something and repurposing it and buying something and using it as intended.

      In other words. Use the right tool for the job. A hammer isn’t a screwdriver just because you can technically hammer in screws.

  • @[email protected]
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    102 years ago

    Never mind the games controller. They bolt u in from the outside?! I’d never survive the panic attack

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      I think most people are roasting their choice of game controller. The cheapo Logitech model. Plus if they wanted simple and reliable I would think a wired version would be better, not the wireless model. The military is all the time using them for controlling UAVs and stuff in the field. Nobody really pokes fun because it doesn’t look like the cheap controller you’d hand off to “player 2”.

  • @[email protected]
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    72 years ago

    I don’t see any issues with this as long as they had several fail-safes in case of hardware malfunction. US military subs us Xbox controllers because it’s what people are comfortable with.

  • _haha_oh_wow_
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    52 years ago

    That is one of the least concerning parts of this lol, at least Logitech makes quality peripherals. If I had to choose a single manufacturer for input devices, it’d probably be them.

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Everyone is saying that it’s stupid they’re bolted in from the outside, even if they weren’t it’s not like they could open the door.

    Also apparently a Canadian aircraft has picked up the sound of banging so there’s still hope.

    • @Shortwave5501
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      Except if they have made it to the surface and now they can’t open the submersible to get new air. In theory they could be suffocating whilst bobbing along the surface. That is of course a big if they have somehow made it to the surface and not been spotted yet.

  • arefx
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    42 years ago

    If they are still alive in it what a nightmare they must be enduring right now, with only like 30hrs of oxygen left.

    I feel like they likely lost pressure or some catastrophic failure and have been dead.

    Or theogotec controller died and they drifted away and haven’t been found.

    Either way it seems really bad for those inside.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      I couldn’t imagine being in a cramped space 2.5 miles under the sea with 4 other people waiting for that time. Horrific comes to mind but I don’t think there is an adequate word for it.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          One of the guided cave tours I’ve done has a moment where they shut off the lights and encourage everyone to be as quiet as possible. Not being able to see the hand in front of your face is interesting for a few seconds, probably terrifying for hours.