• msage@programming.dev
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    28 days ago

    Anyone who didn’t see that coming, I have a bridge to sell to them.

    Cloud doesn’t solve problems, it changes them.

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      28 days ago

      Omg, I got a reputation as being anti progressive because I kept telling the boss that maybe we shouldn’t go all in with cloud. Being in security, I was worried about putting all our shit on the internet and hoping it would be safe. Given the wildly primitive tools we had to see what was happening, I felt my caution was justified.

      Nope, shut up you Luddite, we will save big money and move faster.

      Now we save money by paying Microsoft an arm and a leg every month for their shitty services. We also have to pay cloudflare another ransom to add the protection that Microsoft can’t. We also pay Wiz buttloads of money to make sure that the first two things are working right.

      Then someone who doesn’t like the security controls just creates a new tenant and puts a mountain of exposed PII there to get stolen and random’d.

      The cloud is the best.

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    28 days ago

    What fucking idiot thought “the cloud” would make shit cheaper? I have never heard that argument but it is just as stupid as any other argument I have heard for subscription based bullshit.

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      28 days ago

      I’ve heard the argument that the Cloud reduces the total cost of ownership compared to running your own servers plenty of times

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        27 days ago

        Yeah like having a VPS, if you’re only using 1/10th of the available compute you save a lot (theoretically) compared to paying for the whole system yourself.

        I also agree people argued that a lot over the years for cloud computing.

        Or having the ability to elastic band and spin up more servers as needed, but keep the cost low when not needed.

        Or storage being hot, or cold, and having cold storage is a lot cheaper, but on use it can automatically be moved to hot storage for great performance.

        But in the end buying your own server was cheaper. Buying your own storage was cheaper. At scale maybe the initial cost was more expensive but over the long run way cheaper than going with the cloud.

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          27 days ago

          I personally think VPS’ can make financial sense, but some just charge way too much. Do you know how expensive Azure is? Last time I checked a simple VPS cost €55, while a similair VPS on Hetzner cost €8. That’s an insane markup and the services aren’t even that great. We use it at work and some of their services like Azure Digital Twin have incredibly buggy interfaces that just keept throwing raw JS type-errors at you despite that issue being there for over a year. It’s also so slow that when you create an entry and then query it a second later it will return that it doesn’t exist.