Good news: lemmy.world has overtaken lemmy.ml and now holds the top spot as the #1 non-bot lemmy instance.
Bad news: there’s been an explosion of bot farm instances in the past 48 hours.
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It’s not a competition tho, right?
Yeah, it’s expected to take pride in something like that only because it’s been us vs them for almost as long as the internet has been around. Now we can all access everything everyone else can access (hi from kbin!), so there functionally IS no “them.”
I’ve been trying a lot to shift my own mindset because not only is it just…making another reddit situation if we put all of our eggs in one basket, being competitive about someone else’s instance is literally the same as being mad at someone because their phone uses a different area code. You might get a general idea about them if they have one that’s well known, but culture is the only difference between any of us. And with federation, even that may not stand the test of time.
I don’t know if it’s temporary, but you can’t post from Lemmy.world to Kbin, or even see any federated content from KBin. Also, anything I post from KBin doesn’t show up on Lemmy.world.
Also, if you go to Lemmy.world and view this thread, there’s 174 comments and counting. They aren’t showing up here. Something is wrong with Lemmy.world federation.
Your specific communities might not have established the pipeline yet. But the federation between world and kbin is open. I can see posts and comments for my content on both sides, even at the time of your post.
I did think it was oddly slow for a headline like this, but I mostly likened it to posts getting any attention on the fediverse being like roulette still. Has to be temporary, I know it’s been spotty for at least a few days. Is sad for the time being, though :(
I’ve been investigating this more. It seems to be a problem with Kbin.social… I can view anything on lemmy instances from Kbin, but I can’t view anything on Kbin from lemmy instances. I can’t search my own name, I can’t search Kbin.social communities from Lemmy (tried lemmy.world and beehaw.org) … so I don’t know what to do. This problem basically kills kbin.social for me if it won’t federate properly.
If its something small and niche, use the general kbin search bar and search for the full lemmy url. This will “establish” the connection and get things running with some time. you can do this for communities/magazines as well. If you’re the first to search, it won’t show up, even with @instance looking.
Just a friendly one.
competition for the sucker who foots the bill for this fediverse
True but lemmy.world is being donted to pretty well. He runs a mastodon instance also.
It was tongue in cheek but seems like a weakness in the federation model unless I miss something.
I look forward to the Lemmy wars. I hope we get a good 5 years before the opportunists figure it out and start exploiting the ‘power’ that will come with who can federate with you.
That’s a good point. Guess we’ll have reputation for instances at some point. A chart showing all the defederations.
It is, what did we win?
Is anything not a competition?
Congrats lemmy.world. Loving this lemmy instance.
What’s the difference in instances? They all share the same communities right?
PS, brand new. Migrated from Reddit
They can contribute to the same communities, but communities live on specific instances.
The main difference between instances is the moderation policy and who runs it really, but nobody is generally missing out anything depending on the instance they choose.
There is one exception to the above, which is when instances defederate each other. Imagine that instance A is full of content that is not accepted on B and C, B and C can defederate A to stop “talking to it”. Currently beehaw has defederated Lemmy.world because of the amount of users and moderation capabilities, for example.
So would “communityA” on beehaw have different content to “CommunityA” on Lemmy.world due to the defederation/(block)
So would “communityA” on beehaw have different content to “CommunityA” on Lemmy.world due to the defederation/(block)
Even with federation, [email protected] would be a completely different community from [email protected]. (like email: [email protected] is a completely different account to [email protected])
What federation does for you is that you, on lemmy.world, can access them both with a single login. (email: you can write a mail to [email protected] from within your gmail webmail)
jokes on them, they can’t even see communities on lemmy.world however we can still see their posts
Joined today, not a bot, I pinky 101000110001110. Honestly, so far this place feels intuitive and full of content.
Totally not a bot
Sounds like something a bit would say…
01011001 01101111 01110101 00100111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01101111 01110100
So any guesses how many of these are real users?
I think I’m real, probably.
Or… are you?
dum dummm
Hey, Vsauce, Michael here
When a random user gives you existential crisis.
I might be a bot. I spent the day scraping the web for content and posting it here. That seems bot like.
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Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you.
I’ve been working all day on content, so I’m definitely real.
There are dozens of us… DOZENS!
I might be real. Not too sure actually, I could be engaging in robotic activities 🤖
I want to believe that I’m real!
As a kbinaut, I’m proud of you people! I almost feel we’re connected somehow, like, everything is connected…
Guys help I think I might be a bot
As an AI language model, I agree.
Look ma, I made it.
Where does kbin land on this list? When I signed up for kbin it appeared it was the most popular or at least close to the top. I’m surprised to see it’s not on this list.
It’s not on this list because it’s not a lemmy instance, it is just linked with lemmy via the fediverse. There’s a separate list for kbin instances here: https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list
Nearly 40k users on kbin.social
Are Lemmy and Kbin two different pieces of software that do mostly the same thing? Kind of how you can open a PDF file with Acrobat or any number of other PDF viewers?
Kind of, they are different aggregators for content on the fediverse. There are others too like Mastodon for microblogging like Twitter, or Diaspora for social media like Facebook. For all of these, the actual posts are created using the ActivityPub protocol, so they are interoperable. Lemmy and Kbin are just more similar than the other ActivityPub apps
And it’s also one of the instances that cause the “Subscribe Pending” issue, alongside with lemmy.ml. :/
Yeah what’s up with that?
Congrats lemmy world, we did it!
Who wants to bet the bot farms are run by Reddit? Haha! Regardless, degenerating from them is easy or so I hear (I don’t envy the admins having to defederate from bot farms every 20 minutes though!)
lemmy.ml is currently not taking a lot of new users right now.
