I remember when everything was recorded and edited videos, from short to long, maybe 5 minutes to 1 hour, but it was rare seeing longer videos. Most videos where edited, cutting off boring parts, and videos seemed centred on the content. Also facecams, while still gaining popularity, were not omnipresent.
Nowadays I find it hard to find videos that are not just reuploaded streams. Hours and hours of unedited video. Most of the time seems that the streamer really do nothing, they vaguely read comments, talk about their life and sometimes play a game or something, but the unedited nature of it make it really boring for my taste, there are lots of long dead times where nothing really happens. Also there are constant interruptions, visual and audio noise, the whole every time someone suscribe or paid something noisy has to happen for everyone to see. That takes the quality of the content down. And of course half the screen is covered by face cam, chat, subscriber count, donation objetives, etc. And the streams are always hours and hours and hours, the content is so diluted in long periods of time, it’s unrespectful with out time.
I just don’t see how this format has taken over the internet, it’s worse than what we had. I see how it’s more profitable for the creators, more hours of content for less effort, but I don’t get how viewers prefer that format over a well curated and edited video.
Just a rant. Maybe someday someone searches “why everything is a stream nowadays” and sees that they are not alone, I hate streams too.
I still see tons and tons of excellent processed quality video content of all genres. What are you looking for that you only see streams?
Lucifer Means Lightbringer / David Lightbringer on YT is a great example of a creator who started with well written, well edited videos about Game of Thrones lore, but then drifted into live streams and “read along” live streams that are exactly as OP describes. Very rarely is there an edited video put out anymore, but the dumbass streams are on a friggin schedule.
I find it more in gaming videos, specially latest releases or competitive games.
Also many famous youtubers I used to follow moved to this format when the move from youtube to twitch and stopped doing youtube videos.
From what I’ve gathered from the few content creators that have said anything, it’s that it is much more enjoyable and lucrative to stream as opposed to spending sometimes a week on a single video just for it to flop. They can stream what they want to and their supporter toss money at them while they do it, then they can upload that stream without editing it and get more views/income on YouTube.
Honestly I like it because I like to have a stream playing while I’m doing something or working so I don’t have to keep stopping to find something new to watch “next.”
I guess some kinds of content creators that specialize in stuff that’s current and ages badly, need to be up to date as much as possible, so streaming instead of making vids makes sense to them.
Just like some others moved to or added shorts.
It’s definitely not a widespread trend tho, fortunately, at least until YT starts completely killing longer structured videos.
I suppose you need to find some other tubers. Isn’t there millions of them doing gaming stuff?
If the internet has taught me anything, it’s that no one is the only person who thinks anything. You could love eating expired cereal out of a traffic cone with raccoon piss instead of milk and somebody, somewhere will see that on a forum and be like “dude no way, me too!” And there will be like 57 replies saying “I thought it was just me” lol
I thought it was just me
And there will be a few other people like, “possum spit is the best way to spice it up” and another like, “nah nah, you want skunk ear wax in there. possum spit’s beginner shit.”
then it devolves into like a 90 page/comment deep argument between possum spit and skunk ear wax folks meanwhile people in-between are like, “but really if you mix them just right and add some squirrel snot it’s king shit”
Gotta say this hasn’t been my experience at all, I watch a ton of normal video content and very rarely am recommended streams. Unless I’m on Twitch obviously but if you’re on Twitch you know what to expect.
If you’re talking about YouTube, you might want to consider interacting with those uncut stream uploads less otherwise the algorithm is just gonna think that’s what you’re into.
The algorithm can’t tell the difference between a recorded stream and an edited video. In theory maybe it should know when a video is 4 hours long that it’s different, but in my experience this isn’t the case.
My experience is exactly like OP describes. I have a ton of YT creators I’ve subscribed to in fan lore or even woodworking that have shifted their efforts into live streams where they can tend to their Patreon flock and collect tips.
Because I subscribe to these channels and have engaged with them a lot, the algo shows me whatever they upload. I may even get a notification of new video and then when I look… oh it’s a recorded stream.
Ah that’s a shame, nowt worse than when a creator you like changes direction to something crap. Still, maybe a wave of unsubs will help point them back to the path of rightousness 😄
I assume they are rational actors and making this shift because it is more money for less effort on their part. Ad revenue from produced videos is a very slow and dilute stream. Your channel has to be huge to make much. And when your whole thing is about a niche audience, Patreon etc and streams with tips will just make you more money, plus there is more of a direct interaction with top fans that the creator may enjoy. I just don’t care for this. I don’t need to hear my name read out or pretend I’m their friend. Just gimmie the content!
I’m literally a YouTuber and still agree with you lol. Some of my friends have shifted into doing streams (moved to Twitch though rather than do it on YT) and I’ve just stopped watching because frankly who has the time.
It’s a weird one, video monetisation. For example gaming is well-known to be pretty much the lowest paying niche you can get, so I definitely understand people having to do what they can. In my own niche it’s thankfully much more lucrative so there’s less pressure to pad things out and let the content suffer (not that my content is amazing but you get the point). Moving to slower, drawn-out hour-long videos instead of 15-minute ones would no doubt make me more money, but that’s a choice I face and not a requirement to survive like it can be in the lower-paying niches.
Definitely not a dilemma I envy.
I’m not really seeing the same thing. I see what you’re describing on twitch, sure, because I’m watching streams directly, it’s a different form of content not directly comparable to recorded videos in terms of convention. If I’m watching video of a recorded stream it is almost without exception edited to abridge the content in the way you described you wanted. They do rely on 3rd party editors for that though
There’s still tons of pre-edited video creators. I don’t think that’s decreased in output at all. It’s just that streams are now ALSO being produced.
Not the channels I follow. They clearly make money on the streams and they don’t require as much effort, so attention has shifted to them and actual produced videos have suffered.
Nowadays I find it hard to find videos that are not just reuploaded streams. Hours and hours of unedited video
I hate this. The creators that I follow on YT all made their names on edited videos full of actual content but once they have followings, it’s nonstop streams where they collect micro tips and stroke the egos of Patreon people. There’s no way in hell I can set time aside in my schedule to be there for one of these live, and they’re boring as hell to watch recorded.
I don’t really mind streams, as I mostly just…Don’t watch them. Very rarely I’ll watch the odd stream with small streamers that I kind of enjoy hearing their live commentary, and afterward they typically edit them into separate parts if they do upload them.
More than streaming overtaking a lot of online stuff, I find myself more bothered by the move to video over written essays/blogs. I’ve watched a number of video essays and enjoyed them, but I’ve rarely gone away from many of them thinking, “You know, this really was better being a video.” Instead I tend to think, “I feel like I could have read this faster than the time it took to watch/listen to.”
It’s possible I’m overestimating my reading speed, admittedly, but it doesn’t change my sense that many video essays don’t do enough with the visual component to justify being video essays.
I’m more bothered by these short, portrait-orientated videos that are now showing up on YouTube. I didn’t care as much when they were just on Facebook and TikTok because I don’t use those platforms, I pretty much just use Lemmy and Mastodon now, but they’re really not my cup of tea.
I’m not too bothered about it, most of the creators I follow haven’t dropped their edited content for streams, but I still find the concept of watching a Twitch stream weird. From quick looks, most of them have so much downtime where nothing is happening at all. I guess they would make good background noise though
I resonate with most people here, there is still a lot of normal videos and the ones taken from streams are usually edited to fit into a theme (see DarkViperAU).
I also find streams pretty boring but generally streamers are doing YT content to get both audiences and the discoverability you cannot find in Twitch is compensated in YT (YTL would technically be a solution but it’s rarely pushed into the homepage and only found on the tiny sidebar)
I don’t even like the internet period…but here I am. Personally, I avoid youtube, streams, etc. I enjoy a well made video and I’m all for getting a peak into people’s everyday lives, but most of it is not worthwhile for me.
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