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What’s the point of primary and secondary backups if they can be accessed with the same credentials on the same network
They weren’t normally on the same network, but were accidentally put on the same network during migration.
Time and time again, data hosting providers are proving that local backups not connected to the internet are way better than storing in the cloud.
The 3-2-1 backup strategy: “Three copies are made of the data to be protected, the copies are stored on two different types of storage media and one copy of the data is sent off site.”
How would that work in practice? 1 medium offsite, and 2 mediums on-premises?
Exactly.
This is the way.
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How are you using that 7 port USB hub?
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Oh ok. So you’re using them effectively like cold storage backups? I was scared you were going to tell me that you were running an ZFS pool off a USB hub, lol.
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I dunno about that. If you actually were using a USB hub for ZFS, then I have a 10 petabyte flash drive to sell you.
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The only downside to something like this would be electrical surges if you leave the drives plugged.
Any redundant backup strategy uses both. They both have inherent data loss risks. Local backups are great, but unless you store them in a bunker they are still at risk to fire, theft, vandalism and natural disasters. A good backup strategy stores copies in at least three locations. Local, off-site and the cloud. Off-site backups are backups you can physically retrieve. Like tapes stored in a vault in another city.
Now that you mention fucking incompetence, I need to verify my 3-2-1 backup strategy is correctly implemented. Thanks for the reminder, CloudNordic and AzeroCloud!
Other people’s computers. Never forget.
They had one job
People literally pay these guys to not screw up this one thing.
Danish hosting firms CloudNordic and AzeroCloud have suffered ransomware attacks, causing the loss of the majority of customer data and forcing the hosting providers to shut down all systems, including websites, email, and customer sites.
I feel really bad for everyone involved - customers and staff. The human cost in this is huge.
Yes, there’s a lot of criticism of backup strategies here, but I bet most of us who deal with this professionally have knowledge of systems that would also be vulnerable to malicious attack, and that’s only the shortcomings we know about. Audits and pentesting are great, but not infallable and one tiny mistake can expose everything. If we were all as good as we think we are, ransomware wouldn’t be a thing.
I think that people generally overestimate how much money tech companies like this one actually make. Their profits are tiny. A lot of the time, tech companies run on investment money, and can’t actually turn a profit. They wait for the big acquisition or IPO payday. So if you think you’re actually gonna get 100k off them, good luck. Sometimes they’re barely keeping the lights on.
Put all the data in the cloud, they said. It will all be save and handled by professionals!
That’s what you call an epic blunder.
It is a company destroying blunder.
I think they’re aware of that
Martin Haslund Johansson, the director of Azerocloud and CloudNordic, stated that he does not expect customers to be left with them when the recovery is finally completed.
The customers are already lost:
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pay the expensive ransom, if the bad actor gives them the decryption key, customers are relieved but still pissed, will take the data and move to somewhere else with a big FO. Go out of business.
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don’t pay the ransom, customers are pissed and move to somewhere else with a big FO. Go out of business.
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If you fuck up that badly you shouldn’t be allowed to operate in that industry.
Problem is that you have to work in the industry to fuck up that badly.
They’re a small company, they’ll probably just go bankrupt.
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Sounds like they had all their backups online, instead of keeping offline copies. It’s a reminder that everyone needs at least one backup that isn’t connected to any computer. It’s also a reminder that “the cloud” should not be the only place you keep your data, because hosting providers are targets for this stuff and you don’t know how careful they are.
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I wonder why they can’t/won’t pay.
