In just 3 days more than 500.000 new users!! Lemmy for power, we will be legion, expect us!

  • Quinten
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    3211 months ago

    Besides from the user count. Does it feel more active lately? That’s a more important question imo.

    • @average650
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      1211 months ago

      To me it feels slightly more active than when I joined 9 days ago. I think this is as much to improved organization regarding communities as much as new users. But the growth hasn’t been incredibly.

      • @solidsnake911OP
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        211 months ago

        I think people needs to be familiarizated with federated communities like Lemmy. Is hard to me yet get to used to Mastodon, more than here.

    • S_H_K
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      611 months ago

      I guess we’ll have to give time to adapt. The fediverse altogether is having a big shakeup. I guess when people starts to find themselves at home they’ll get to interact more.

    • pgetsos
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      411 months ago

      I feel it more active for sure. Not a lot, but it will get there

    • @solidsnake911OP
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      411 months ago

      You’re right, slightly more active than 10 days.

  • @rist097
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    2611 months ago

    Most of them are bots, I estimate around 200k real users

    • @maggoats
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      911 months ago

      I agree, based on these statistics. Prior to the obvious jump in bot-farmed accounts, there were about 162000 active users with an active user proportion of about 0.186 (somewhere around >29000 active users).

      Now there are 649k lemmy users and an active user proportion of 0.055 (~35600 according to the dashboard). If we assume those 35600 users represent the pre-bot-farming ratio of 0.186, we get 35600/0.186 or about just over 191000.

      That’s still an increase of probably 30k true users, unless the proportion of lurkers have also suddenly drastically increased. I don’t think that’s true, because, pre-bot-farming, when the user base started growing with the Reddit debacle, the proportion of active users increased accordingly. I assume that’s because new users are excited to help grow the community.

      Still, in the past two days alone active users went up by over 5k (15%). Maybe that’ll continue exponentially, and there’ll be 95k (500k total non-bot) users two weeks from now, or maybe it’ll continue linearly and there’ll be 70k (~385k) users.

      I don’t know why I spent so long thinking about this.

        • @maggoats
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          511 months ago

          Ha! :D Honored to be the inaugurating post of that community

      • @average650
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        211 months ago

        I would bet the newer users form reddit are not quite as active as the older users, so it’s probably a little bit better than that, but in the ballpark.

        • @maggoats
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          11 months ago

          So actually, it looks like the active users percentage went up starting the beginning of June, precipitously dropping when the bot farming began. That’s where I get the pre-bot-farming number of 0.186 from.

          It could be that user participation dropped at the same time as the bot farming, but it seems to me that all the new users have been posting a lot (myself included).

          graph

          ^^^ From the stats website: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

    • @solidsnake911OP
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      211 months ago

      Sad fact. Hope staff solve that thing.

  • Slashzero
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    2511 months ago

    The question is: what percentage of those users are bots? And does it matter?

    • @[email protected]
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      2111 months ago

      The way I’ve heard of things in federated instances, if one instance becomes bot filled and toxic, then other instances will unfederate them. It makes it worthwhile for mods of that instance to run a healthy server.

      There’s a bot running on one instance now that identifies itself as such and is reposting content from reddit with links going to the original article. These sorts of bots I can accept.

      • @average650
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        211 months ago

        We really need some better moderating tools between instances. At this point, the only solution is defederation, but that’s really not a good solution.

        Maybe some kind of way to restrict, but not eliminate, users between federations? Some age that accounts from instance A have to reach to post/comment in instance B? Maybe, communities that are restricted by instance? We’d have to be careful of it not getting too complicated and driving away users.

    • @solidsnake911OP
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      011 months ago

      It matters because it means which Lemmy is growing exponentially! Ofc some of those users would be bots, but I highly doubt a lot of them.

      • @average650
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        911 months ago

        There are instances with over 9k accounts and like 5 posts. There’s a lot of bots.

        • @solidsnake911OP
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          111 months ago

          Hope the staff works to solve this.

          • @average650
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            411 months ago

            The problem is that there is no “the staff” as such. The developers can add tools, but if people want bot instances, there will be bot instances. The instance administrators can just not federate with them (which makes the most sense to me) but that will be on an instance by instance basis.

            • @solidsnake911OP
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              111 months ago

              I understand, thank you. Then of that way how possible avoid that Lemmy.world for example would filled with bots.

              • @average650
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                311 months ago

                Well Lemmy.worlsld can defederate with the bit instances. That won’t affect any other instance though.

                As far as bots making accounts on Lemmy.world, they’ve added a captcha which helps a lot.

                I hope we’ll get some improved moderating tools that help eventually as well.

      • @cats
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        811 months ago

        The reason it is likely a lot of bot accounts is someone explained how to exploit a glitch that creates thousands of bot accounts within minutes. The day after they posted the exploit, suddenly Lemmy started growing rapidly. It’s just too coincidental to not be mostly bots

  • @FlaxPicker
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    1811 months ago

    700k total users but the most votes ive seen on a post this week is like 1k

    • GeneralBoop
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      1111 months ago

      Bots will ruin the fediverse just like they ruin everything else, thats the true inevitability.

    • smokinjoe
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      711 months ago

      Typically only a very small percentage of total users actually interact/comment/vote on content.

      I don’t know if I’ve seen a community/magazine with even 10k subscribers yet - so 1k votes is pretty incredible participation.

      • ivanafterall
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        211 months ago

        I saw a post pointing out that one of the Star Trek subs hit 10k, so it’s still relatively rare, at least.

  • @[email protected]
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    1411 months ago

    Many of the new ones are bots signing up on instances that are highly suspect. Some Lemmy users and admins have started monitoring the situation.

  • @ANewUser
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    711 months ago

    I wish my bank account grew like this graph! Sadly, it’s the reverse

  • CynAq
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    511 months ago

    You can see here that most of the new accounts are on spam instances created for the sole purpose of making spam bots.

    • @solidsnake911OP
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      09 months ago

      Hmmm, what do you mean, that if I’m stay without activity for 2 weeks, then I would be a lurker? Idk the mean of that word sorry. But yeah, it could be.

  • rgb_leds_are_love
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    211 months ago

    My dumbass thought “Why do you need three zeroes after the decimal place” until I realized some countries in Europe have the comma and the dot backwards