It feels like being an optimist in this world must be absolutely soul crushing.

  • @Cortell
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    321 year ago

    It’s fine as long as it doesn’t become a self fulfilling prophecy. If you think an endeavour will fail anyway you won’t try as hard because why bother

    • @alvvayson
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      That’s the real problem with pessimism. It usually does become a self-fulfilling prophecy, leading to worse outcomes for pessimists.

      But yes, also less disappointment. So if you can’t handle disappointment, then pessimism is the locally optimal strategy.

      But the better strategy is to learn how to emotionally handle disappointment. Then you can become a realist or even an optimist and just take the disappointments along the way.

      • catreadingabook
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        Arguably both ‘extremes’ can become an excuse for inaction, pessimists may think “why even try if it probably won’t help” while optimists may think “it’ll resolve itself / look at the bright side.” Similarly, both can be strategies for coping with disappointment. And can become a tiny bit delusional.

        But at least optimists live in blissful ignorance lol. I think people underestimate an optimist’s ability to see problems as just solutions waiting to happen.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 year ago

    Time almost always proves you correct

    This is a very pessimistic outlook, well done on being internally consistent.

    • @AllonzeeLVOP
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      It’s just proves objectively true over time. I specifically said time usually proves you correct, not that you’ll probably be correct.

      That isn’t hoping, that’s just observation from experience. Things don’t usually go for the best generally. You don’t need to look forward to come to that conclusion.

    • @sock
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      01 year ago

      in my case i don’t know how to act happy like other people do I’ve always been pretty sad and that made me pessimistic/smug. i don’t know how people get excited or happy about stuff usually.

  • @[email protected]
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    Pessimism is boring, and it does not inspire action. It smothers it. Optimism gives you a reason to try

  • @j4k3
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    101 year ago

    I very much believe in this philosophy

    And, also, very much believe this makes us assholes. Welcome to the family

    • @AllonzeeLVOP
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      11 year ago

      When you know nothing matters, the universe is yours.

      And yeah, that makes you an asshole to the universe, agreed fam.

    • xigoi
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      If you’re pleasantly surprised, you have to be a pessimist. An optimist will expect things to be positive, so the positivity can’t be surprising.

  • @[email protected]
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    The real trick is not having expectations at all!

    If things go bad? So what, shit happens.

    If they go well? Cool, lucky.

    Just enjoy the moments, and give thought to issues only as they arise.

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    41 year ago

    My life has given me the exact opposite experience. Time almost always proves me correct to be optimistic, it just sometimes takes a longer time. So you have to be both optimistic and patient. The pessimist may be right in the short term, but optimism is.correct.given enough time.

    • @Iusedtobeanadventurer
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      21 year ago

      This has been my experience as well.

      I consider myself a pragmatic optimist. I assume the best intentions in those around me, give forgiveness for human error and tendencies, and when someone gives me cause to do so I pragmatically adjust my expectations of them and their actions.

      I also assume that, as long as I am trying to do the next right thing in each situation I find myself in, most of those situations will resolve in a positive outcome. Even if others involved are not committed to the same path.

      I found much more success and happiness with this philosophy or approach to life.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      Same here. I go about life with a positive outlook and because of that, see negative things as minor hickups among all the positive things that reinforce my optimism

  • @[email protected]
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    31 year ago

    I think giving into either of them too much has drawbacks. The criticisms I have of optimism are just as relevant to pessimism. Plus our perception of things can be influenced by pre-existing cognitive biases.

  • @AnalogyAddict
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    31 year ago

    Pessimism, realism. They are the same word for some of us.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 year ago

    Yeah. It might save you alright. But it should be in moderation, or sometimes kept to oneself. Too much pessimism can drive away friends.

    That is, unless all your friends are also ultra pessimists, then you’ll just have to one up each other in a pessimist pissing contest.

  • wilberfan
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    21 year ago

    I get grief about being a pessimist (primarily from, yes, optimists), but both pessimism and optimism are strategies for coping with life’s uncertainties. One works better for some, the other works better for others.

  • @RBWells
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    21 year ago

    I think there is a difference between not having expectations and borrowing trouble. If you literally look for everything to go wrong, it will, and focusing on the negative makes you find it everywhere and not see the positive.

    My view is that I am exceptionally lucky to be alive and physically embodied. On top of that I am not even in constant pain. Can see and hear and feel, can taste and read and dance. I feel true gratitude for being able to experience anything at all, to have a body and a mind. I’m not sure it’s optimistic at all, but I am happy.