Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

  • @AB7ORH7D
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    4911 months ago

    I think Lemmy could use some more ads. I feel like I don’t have enough material things, and I don’t know what to buy. /s

    • @samus12345
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      1011 months ago

      I also would like to have content that makes people angry shoved in my face to keep me engaged.

    • @rkk
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      411 months ago

      i dont have money, happy without constantly being reminded.

    • @HulkSmashBurgers
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      211 months ago

      Some surveillance capitalism would be nice too. That way I know I’m wanted. /s

  • @Resonosity
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    4411 months ago

    The reason I used Reddit is Fun WAS because of its stripped down, bare bones style. I only wanted to read thoughts and opinions, and choose to view images/video/ads when I wanted to. This is absolutely a feature of Jerboa (and Lemmy) for me

    • NakamuraEmi_bias
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      I don’t know the background of OP so this is just an opinion: I feel that modern UX have become so ubiquitous and streamlined for content consumption that users who aren’t used to old-styled UIs see the lack of “sleek” design as lesser. It works doubly so that users aren’t willing to venture outside of their ecosystems and will put up with anything regardless if it’s detrimental to their experience.

      Compare users of new reddit and the official app vs. users of old reddit and 3PA. I used 3PA because there wasn’t an official app and RiF matched what I was used to. It’s a similar phenomena to Apple users vs Windows/Android. People are just used to a streamlined sleek experience (which to be fair has it’s merits) but to say it’s superior or that the alternative is lesser is a large misstep in thinking.

      It takes effort to go out of your comfort zone but it’s saddening to see users mindlessly, for lack of a better terms, consume

  • @MiddleWeigh
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    4011 months ago

    I’m here to read think and talk. I like it simple.

    • @MercuryUprising
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      1411 months ago

      Yeah, for real. “But there’s no fun awards and bubbly icons and bright colors.”

      Well then, go back to kindergarten.

    • SoPunny
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      611 months ago

      Same, was using old.Reddit before and plan on figuring out how to use the tools I saw to redo lemmy to page layout on no stupid questions.

    • V6277
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      511 months ago

      Kbin has support for custom CSS. There are still some bugs and plenty of things to iron out, but once the platform matures, expect there to be plenty of color and vibrance haha.

      • TweedyImpertinence
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        In theory, custom CSS is a neat idea, but it’s typically a one-and-done project that is difficult to update, and in most cases, an inadvertent “fuck you” to users who rely on the built-in accessibility of native elements.

        Also, custom CSS by users is effectively them placing a code freeze on the frontend.

        If a better way of doing things comes along (which is a given in the tech world), you either improve the core site CSS and break the customizations (and hear all about it from your users); improve both (which is a ton of work with no tangible difference in what’s rendered to the page), but now the people who made those customizations need to up their CSS game (which rarely happens); or you do nothing and let entropy run its course and do a total rewrite some day. The last one is literally what happened with new Reddit.

    • @zeppo
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      211 months ago

      Yeah, as a diehard old.reddit and non-app user, the design here has been very easy for me to adapt to

  • XYZinferno
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    3011 months ago

    “The hosts are too lazy” says the person whining about it without doing anything.

    Try switching to a platform you’ve never used before and making a community out of nothing, or host the Lemmy instance and be forced to deal with thousands of new users daily. Lazy my ass…

  • @guidedlight
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    2811 months ago

    The basic platforms are more successful. They are faster and less user hostile.

    old.reddit.com Hacker News Old Digg Old Fark

  • Maple
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    It’s about personal preference. It’s important to have a user interface that’s modular and comfortable for the end user and manageable for the devs. Options are always the answer, the ability to enable or disable certain aspect or details is what drives me towards one app or the other. (This is coming from someone who used Infinity for Reddit for the past 4 years.)

    • @setsneedtofeedOP
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      It just seems incredibly nitpicky to call alternatives lazy for not having all of the modularity of a decade+ old platform.

      ”Reddit is imploding, and the CEO is being terrible to users, and the native app is super intrusive and inefficient but ugh the alternatives have square buttons.”

      Just really weird that the lack of visual bells and whistles is something to even talk about at the moment. Just a little lower in the thread, the same person complained about lack of gilding. Just, really weird complaints.

      • Sir_Kevin
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        1511 months ago

        I’m happy to have people like that stay on reddit. They can stagnate along with the dying platform and their stupid round buttons.

        • @MercuryUprising
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          311 months ago

          Yeah. Theyre like people trying to convince you stay on the sinking ship. Wouldn’t be surprised if its an actual reddit employee talking that shit.

      • Maple
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        311 months ago

        I hear you. I agree that it’s silly to complain about that stuff right now, to the person who isn’t satisfied, instead why not post a feature request on the github and continue browsing reddit for now?

        • Ataraxia
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          011 months ago

          Because they’re lazy lol

  • @Dvixen
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    2711 months ago

    Was using Lemmy on my phone via browser, and I darn near swooned at how clean and tidy and useable it was.

    • @TheFence
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      Agreed! I was thinking initially that an app would be nice since most websites kind of suck, but this looked great on mobile and I doubt an app is necessary if the clean trend continues.

  • @dino
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    If you don’t like the UI, you can always download a browser extension that change the CSS of the website. However, if this is the main criticism people do to Lemmy, I would say that’s not bad for a relatively new platform

  • @iByteABit
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    2511 months ago

    I’m especially annoyed by the way videos are shown on every Lemmy UI, I can’t be bothered to click on a link every time there’s video content on my feed

    • wildchandelure
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      2111 months ago

      This is a highly requested feature and in the process of being implemented. I believe it will be available next update.

  • @blueskiesoc
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    2511 months ago

    I think the more they bitch about Reddit alternatives, the more people will be reminded that there are alternatives to Reddit.

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    One thing I do dislike, the post width on desktop is limited. Between the sidebar always being shown and the container being 1140 px wide, the comment section ends up only being 760 px wide; way too narrow for me.

    I wrote a Stylus script for Firefox to make the posts full-width.

    URL starts with: https://lemmy.world/post URL starts with: https://lemmy.world/comment

    Script:

    .container, .container-lg, .container-md, .container-sm, .container-xl {
    	max-width: 100%;
    }
    
    .col-md-8 {
    	flex: 0 0 80%;
    	max-width: 80%;
    }
    
    .col-md-4 {
    	flex: 0 0 20%;
    	max-width: 20%;
    }
    
  • @Zuberi
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    2111 months ago

    Wouldn’t put too much thought into it. Most of the shills are bots.

    • @Holyginz
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      1111 months ago

      I still find it amusing I was banned from r/worldnews for a day for calling a russian shill a shill.

      • @Willer
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        011 months ago

        I saw a comment on a news youtube channel saying: “Nothing new in Russia”. Got ridiculed for “generalising”. This sort of patronising bs is so common in mainstream media. It is horrible and sabotaging any meaningful discussion and they are getting away with it.

        • @Holyginz
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          111 months ago

          There comes a point where it needs to be said, no, you don’t get to tell your side or give your story. We know your story and your side and you don’t get to try and make it sound better.

  • @mintiefresh
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    2111 months ago

    I’m pretty sure Reddit UI/UX isn’t very well designed either lol. Especially new reddit.

    • @MercuryUprising
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      611 months ago

      New reddit tried to fix something nobody thought was broken. New reddit and its app was meanwhile annoying and broken as fuck.

      • @mintiefresh
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        711 months ago

        Agreed. I clung to the old reddit and swore to quit Reddit once they took that away.

        Turns out they managed to make me quit before that happened lol.