Hi, I’m wondering myself is root useful or not ? In which case it can be useful ? And Root with magisk is unsecure ?
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Root is extremely useful for customizing the OS and running certain types of apps. It won’t really do much for your average user and does degrade security depending on how root access was gained/obtained. It’s going to be a balance. Also keep in mind a handful of apps (like banking apps) will do a root check before loading the application and refuse to let you access it if it determines your device is rooted.
Tdlr: Rooting is great if you need it for something, just be sure to understand the downsides and don’t bother if you don’t have a specific use case for root access.
Yes it degrades security, yes it is worth it for my usecase at least
But also gives you the options to increase security.
That’s really only true if you are smarter and more knowledgeable than the security team of the phone OEM… and you unroot after you have made changes.
One example would be being able to use hosts based blocking of malicious domains while using a VPN at the same time. Does not work without root. Has nothing to do with being smarter than the security team or anything either.
I use it to backup apps with Swift Backup, it’s not insecure as long as you don’t do silly things like modifying system files in a dangerous way, keep in mind that some banking apps and even games won’t work if they detect root.
There are already several opinions about rooting, so I’m not entering that discussion, but I can share my view of ACC and AccA.
I’m the kind of person, who charges the phone over the night. My device theoretically supports 33W charging (can’t test this as I don’t have the stock charger), but when charging over the course of several hours I don’t need this speed.
I have the current limit set to 750mA and max charge in range of 90-95%. This works fine for me and in case I need a quick top-up there’s always Charge once to #%, without restrictions option.
Is it useful to do that ? https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries
It is potentially unsecure both as a process and with its consequences, but if you know what you are doing (carefully read tutorials and guides step by step especially if you have no beforehand experience) you have a very low chance to brick your device or corrupt it in any other way.
It’s important to note that rooting is different from device model to device model and especially from manufacturer to manufacturer. Some manufacturers totally prevent rooting. Officially you lose the warranty of your device if you root it.
Some of the other commenters have mentioned that some apps check for root and refuse to work if the device is rooted (or only because the bootloader is unlocked) which is true, however if you are rooted there is variety of tools to prevent these apps from recognizing a rooted device (or just unlocked bootloader) so I wouldn’t count this as that much of a problem. I am using banking apps and google pay on my rooted phone just fine.
Rooting Android is one of the most insecure things you can do to your Android phone.
That’s like saying being able to turn left is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your car.
No, it’s like saying swapping out the fuel delivery system and ecu fuel mapping with a custom tunable system and Map is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your car; which it is if not done by a professional or someone with significant experience/understanding.
No, it’s like saying having admin permissions is one of the most dangerous things you can do on your home computer. Only an idiot would think that.
I mean, it is, if you don’t have admin you can’t install root-level malware directly (still can if the malware uses some bug to gain privilege). But I still fully agree with your point, I just wanted to say that technically, having root is dangerous in the sense that you can do anything. Most end users have no reason to modify system files etc. Since they only use a web browser and word.
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That’s going to be a thing of the past. The future for corporate users is a locked down monitored system with least privilege access in the name of security. Zero Trust they call it.
How much damage to end users deal
When I was in IT
most people aren’t
most people click
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I’m talking about home computers
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Skill issue + not my problem. It doesn’t matter if most people are competent, they should have full control over their property. The ones who fuck up will be responsible for the consequences of their actions. Most people are too stupid to use power tools correctly, but the last time I checked, I didn’t have to nicely ask Milwaukee to unlock the bootloader on my drill so I could use it with torx bits.
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You absolutely are NOT allowed by Milwaukee to open up your drill and self-service it without voiding their warranty
If you’re in the USA, however, you’re allowed to do that by federal law, and Milwaukee is forbidden from voiding the warranty unless they can prove you serviced it incorrectly enough to cause the problem you’re seeking warranty service for.
Is your ability to deliberately misinterpret everything you read the result of study, or does it come naturally?
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Notably, there is a difference between admin and root.
One has checks, the other can run scripts, change permissions, move files, delete files, hide malware, install rootkits, install ransomware, exfiltrate data, alter your OS, change hardware voltages, etc all without so much as a prompt.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a beginner or a seasoned veteran with handling root, it can cause some heavy damage to your system when you or another application mishandle it.
Rule of thumb is to remain in user mode for the entirety of your sessions. Only use admin rights when you need to make a system change. Most well-designed applications should not need to be run as admin, and definitely not root.
What is this proselytization adding, here?
Its called the principle of least privilege, or principle of minimal privilege, or principle of least authority.
Its a philosophy learned by anyone who is serious about information assurance. Its a very basic, yet fundamental security concept.
Got it. I thought it wasn’t relevant to this context, and I was right.
Lol you’re not getting those admin permissions by flipping a simple switch. Root access is far more involved than simple admin permissions so please try again.
It can’t be much more complicated than basic reading comprehension, but that’s clearly beyond you.
Lots of insults. Clearly you’re a person of the people, you must work wonders when changing minds. 🤯
Calm down
Fair.
The thing about “knowing just enough to be dangerous” is typically the person doesn’t realize that’s all they know.
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So how does one use sudo on Android then?
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