• JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Damn. I was genuinely curious about this for a few moments, but then I read that it’s some typical DC stuff about a super-crusader going on a rampage in SF. (yes, and I didn’t even notice the taxi, etc)

    Unfortunately, yet another persuader to stick to Euro comics…

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      5 hours ago

      It was published by Vertigo, not DC, and IIRC it’s a novel story comparable to other heyday creator Vertigo titles. Vertigo had a few years where it published some really cool creator-owned stuff that wasn’t just monthly superhero drama (Crusades does not, in fact, have a superhero). Given its short run and current omnibus publication, there’s not much to differentiate between this and a euro comic

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        4 hours ago

        Vertigo is an imprint of DC, and I really have no use for American comics anymore, outside of indie / alt stuff. Yes, this one doesn’t technically have a superhero (that’s the bare minimum for me), but it also seems to be about… a fricken’ super-crusader loose in SF. I do agree that some Euro stuff is just as dopey as mainstream American stuff, but that’s also the stuff that I specifically try to avoid.

        I’m sure I’m coming off as a pompous arse here, but this is really more about what I like, and my opinion’s simply not positive on most American comics. Spent a lifetime reading that stuff and have since moved on…

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          4 hours ago

          It’s really hard for me to differentiate the heyday Vertigo creator series like Sandman, Transmetropolitan, and 100 Bullets from similar euro comics. War Stories is incredibly close in idea and format to many BDs. At one point in time, Vertigo was a powerhouse that published good things, not repetitive DC/Marvel hero-of-the-week. I spent a fair amount of time composing my answer to compare and contrast with the euro comics I’ve read and other American things. Crusades isn’t Asterix or Thorgal but neither is The Incal and The Incal shares more with Crusades than Tintin does with The Incal. Right now I feel like you’re making sweeping generalizations when you mean very specific things; I don’t think that’s pompous just way too broad.

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            Well, keep in mind that both Sandman and Transmetropolitan had British writers, so they’re just as much Euro comics to me. 100 Bullets, I checked out the first couple issues and felt like it was fairly clever and fairly quality gun culture media, but nevertheless still American-style gun culture media, and I’m just not interested in that. Overall, I’ve checked out some of Vertigo’s stuff over the years, and just as with Image comics for example, there’s just very little there that interests me, and no reason to spend any more of my time on such. It’s as simple as that, really.

            Crusades isn’t Asterix or Thorgal but neither is The Incal and The Incal shares more with Crusades than Tintin does with The Incal.

            Those are all vastly different series, so I’m not really sure what your point is, there.

            Fact is, and bottom line, I’ve put decades in to reading American fare, and only a few years truly checking out the breadth of Euro comics, much of that because my French wasn’t good enough at the time. Now I intend to spend what years I have left (I’m middle-aged, with significant health problems) exploring Euro stuff and trying to share the best stuff I come across.

            I maybe shouldn’t have commented relatively negatively in my first thread reply, but I did get truly excited for a moment, thinking that perhaps an American publisher tackled something interesting like The Crusades, but instead it’s just… whatever. Not something of any real interest to me.

            Just to be clear, Euro comics certainly aren’t sacred to me, and there’s certainly plenty of stuff that’s either weak, or doesn’t interest me at all. But that’s not the point.